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Re: Game Check again [Re: jawbone] #2468471
04/24/18 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by Shaw
One buck and 3 does. Reported all of them. My nephew killed a buck during youth season and I reported it also. Took about 60 seconds to report each of them. It’s not difficult at all to do. Honestly, I wish we would go to physical tags if we’re going to continue to report them.


I can see Sykes wanting to do this and make you buy tags even if you are a lifetime license holder or in the exempt group of "entitlement" hunters.


Tags could be free with a "Make your own" deal. Use a wide plastic zip-tie and Sharpie, a strip of duct tape and sharpie, whatever. Wrap it around the antler or poke it through the ear or leg.

Ohio DNR has a pretty good setup and hunters make their own tags but still call in for a confirmation number. I've done it and it's easy. Oklahoma is the same way. No cost for tags. You get your ass in a sling if you get caught without a tag and folks know it.

Go here and scroll down to Tagging & Checking:

http://wildlife.ohiodnr.gov/hunting...ing-regulations/deer-hunting-regulations


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2468706
04/25/18 12:08 AM
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what ????? we pose to report how many we kill ?????

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2468773
04/25/18 06:32 AM
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On deer, according to the answers here, the compliance is about 90%. Sgtred awhile back said he was not seeing out of compliance GC, if I remember correctly. Maybe he will elaborate again on what he saw. Maybe his 30%-35% is actually 85%-90% and he is frustrated with people doing what he has asked but not telling him what he wanted to hear.

I still don't understand the percentage. If 240,000 deer are killed and 80,000 are reported, that is 33% compliance. But if you already know 240,000 deer where killed, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT NUMBER TO GET THE PERCENTAGE, why are you looking for how many deer are killed. You already know.

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2468774
04/25/18 06:37 AM
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3 reported deer 2 turkeys reported as well

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2468809
04/25/18 07:27 AM
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One buck this year and one buck last year, phoned both of them in to GC.

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2468904
04/25/18 09:07 AM
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I have reported all of my kills since the program first began and was Voluntary.
I do not think that the requested information has any biological importance at all, though.

The few people I know who don’t report them are not hardened poachers......they are older gentlemen who have hunted their whole lives and do not get on the computer or use smart phones.

Re: Game Check again [Re: Hogwild] #2468928
04/25/18 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Hogwild
I have reported all of my kills since the program first began and was Voluntary.
I do not think that the requested information has any biological importance at all, though.


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Re: Game Check again [Re: centralala] #2468931
04/25/18 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by centralala

I still don't understand the percentage. If 240,000 deer are killed and 80,000 are reported, that is 33% compliance. But if you already know 240,000 deer where killed, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT NUMBER TO GET THE PERCENTAGE, why are you looking for how many deer are killed. You already know.

That's the whole point. They don't know how many deer was killed. And therefore they don't know the percentage of compliance. A few folks in the Dept are trying desperately to get the number up close to what they've been dramatically overestimating for years.


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2468943
04/25/18 09:43 AM
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I killed 2 deer , my wife killed 2 , and my daughter killed 1. All were reported using the App with no problems at all.

Re: Game Check again [Re: Out back] #2468962
04/25/18 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by centralala

I still don't understand the percentage. If 240,000 deer are killed and 80,000 are reported, that is 33% compliance. But if you already know 240,000 deer where killed, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT NUMBER TO GET THE PERCENTAGE, why are you looking for how many deer are killed. You already know.

That's the whole point. They don't know how many deer was killed. And therefore they don't know the percentage of compliance. A few folks in the Dept are trying desperately to get the number up close to what they've been dramatically overestimating for years.


So, what you are saying is his estimate of approx. 240000 deer killed the season before is way wrong. From that he concluded 30%-35% complied. Using a bogus number of 240000 as you contend can NEVER produce anything but a failure of GC? Now, if he had used 100000, GC would be hitting around 78%-82% in the first 2 years and an instant success. Therfor, the number he used, which I have no clue if it's right or wrong, has created the perception of GC failure. So he created that failing perception himself, no one else.

We should have never been given any numbers but what was reported. No percentages, no nothing. Let the hunters think what they want about percentages but don't endorse your own systems failure. Just each year say we are not where we want to be, a lot of work to be done, but we will get there. I would go thank all those who reported. Keep up the good work.

Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2468964
04/25/18 10:04 AM
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I wonder if or how they come up with the number of incidental takes that involve car bumpers? You have to think that is a significant cause of mortality for the deer herd on a yearly basis. Do they actually research the insurance claims, or do they just guess that number too?


You gonna pull them pistols, or whistle Dixie?
Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2469055
04/25/18 11:39 AM
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I definitely checked mine in at alabama outdoor.com. Then screenshot confirmation numbers. I encouraged others to check theirs in also.

Re: Game Check again [Re: centralala] #2469179
04/25/18 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by centralala
On deer, according to the answers here, the compliance is about 90%. Sgtred awhile back said he was not seeing out of compliance GC, if I remember correctly. Maybe he will elaborate again on what he saw. Maybe his 30%-35% is actually 85%-90% and he is frustrated with people doing what he has asked but not telling him what he wanted to hear.

I still don't understand the percentage. If 240,000 deer are killed and 80,000 are reported, that is 33% compliance. But if you already know 240,000 deer where killed, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THAT NUMBER TO GET THE PERCENTAGE, why are you looking for how many deer are killed. You already know.


Stop using logic, lol.


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2469637
04/25/18 09:52 PM
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3 kills, all reported


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2469655
04/25/18 10:02 PM
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Comply with the regulation. Yes. Like it. No.

I am guessing that you will find more people on this site complying than the state average.

Re: Game Check again [Re: jhardy] #2469707
04/25/18 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jhardy
Comply with the regulation. Yes. Like it. No.

I am guessing that you will find more people on this site complying than the state average.


I'm going to guess that the people who dont report them are more than likely not going to comment and say they didnt.


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2469730
04/25/18 10:53 PM
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I was blessed to shoot two bucks and three does. Reported all 5 deer.

No big deal to me to do so.

Takes only a few minutes of time, we are supposed to do it and I try my best to abide by our state laws and regulations.


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Re: Game Check again [Re: MTeague] #2469741
04/25/18 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MTeague
Originally Posted by jhardy
Comply with the regulation. Yes. Like it. No.

I am guessing that you will find more people on this site complying than the state average.


I'm going to guess that the people who dont report them are more than likely not going to comment and say they didnt.



i did not report the ones i didn't kill lol

Re: Game Check again [Re: MTeague] #2469796
04/26/18 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MTeague
Originally Posted by jhardy
Comply with the regulation. Yes. Like it. No.

I am guessing that you will find more people on this site complying than the state average.


I'm going to guess that the people who dont report them are more than likely not going to comment and say they didnt.


this^^^^^^^^.


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Re: Game Check again [Re: ElkHunter] #2469826
04/26/18 07:01 AM
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Ok, so for the most part, NOT 100% BUT A HIGH PERCENTAGE, of deer hunters fall into 1 of 2 categories. Those who don't like it but report anyway and the ones who don't like and don't report.. The number that who likes it and reports APPEARS to be insignificant.

Given those majority groups, can compliance for GC ever improve? I'm talking actual number of deer killed and reported ever improve ....to let's say 100,000?. Not talking about a % of any made up number, just the actual number reported

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