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Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 07:22 AM
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I'm going to have to be very vague here with locations and such because as far as I know some of the legal stuff is still going on, though close to coming to an end. So, please bare with me and don't ask too much as I really don't want to answer.
An acquaintance of mine, not super close friend but not a stranger, shot and killed a man. This person is a female and was kidnapped along with two of her co-workers. What the person didn't know was that of the three people he kidnapped, the female had a concealed weapon. According to all three victims, the suspect told them he was going to kill them all, after robbing them, and raping her. When opportunity presented itself, the female victim pulled her pistol and unload it into the suspects chest, killing him. They called the police, who showed up and cuffed everyone. They end up taking only her to jail and kept her half the day, locked up. One of the co-workers notified her husband who went to the police station, where they wouldn't tell him anything. Wouldn't even confirm having her. The husband threatens to get an attorney to which the station responds if he does, she will stay in jail at least 24 hours. (Yeah, that confirmed she was there then). After half a day goes by, theu finally released her. My question, is it proper protocol to take someone to jail even on a justified shooting? I know the police have to figure out what happened but they had three victims all telling the same story. Also, if they weren't sure the female was telling the truth, why wouldn't they arrest the two men as well? To clarify, before anyone asks, she was not asked to go to the station to give statements. She was cuffed and arrested, then later released.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 07:25 AM
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Dude you're like that old lady in "murder in she wrote". Everywhere that old gal goes, she steps in some tragedy. If I was you, I would be scared to death to leave my house.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 07:28 AM
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Why? It wasn't me. Just someone I know. Just asking how it's legally supposed to be handled. What tragedy have I posted about in the past? I called 911 on a unresponsive kid on spring break. I was robbed several years ago at a gas station but what else?
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 07:34 AM
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Well what did you expect? a pat on the back and shown to her ca. You clearly have no idea how the justice system works on the LEO end. She can't call it in. They question while all accounts are fresh in the people involved minds and before they can't put their stories together. Let LEO do their job. Unless you are a lawyer(her lawyer) or LEO its none of your business.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 07:39 AM
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F*ck it. Just forget it. I didn't "expect" a damn thing. I was just asking what the protocol was. I guess if her and her husband told me about it personally, that made it enough of my business to be curious as to how it's handled. And no, I don't know how the system works. That's why I asked.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 07:40 AM
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Actually that has happened around here several times. To my knowledge the person defending themselves has not been arrested or held for questioning. Our DA will take the case to a grand jury in order to have the person legally cleared from any future indictment. But I guess it depends on the situation. Sounds to me like the officers had a good reason to suspect this wasn't a case of self defense. Perhaps somebody is lying.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 07:41 AM
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Or new Sheriff or DA. Those protocols change every election. If this is true I'm surprised she isn't being charged with shooting to kill and not just wound. Why isn't this ion the news?????>
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 07:53 AM
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It was on the news. I didn't say where it happened. Alabama isn't the only state I've lived but it happened several months ago. Due to how it was handled, they (the couple) just told how she was locked up. (I assume, due to legal advice, maybe) She has been cleared of all charges.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 08:01 AM
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It happened several months ago and you are just now getting around to telling the entire World about it? That seems odd, you usually dont wait a half-second to start talking about stuff.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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That's it. Pile on. I can take it. To be a college professor you must not comprehend too well in your reading. The shooting happened several months ago but they just told how she was arrested.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 08:07 AM
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Could it have been a real small town PD where they learn as they go and do as they please? Arab was like that in the 60s and 70s and Guntersville wasn't far behind.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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F*ck it. Just forget it. I didn't "expect" a damn thing. I was just asking what the protocol was. I guess if her and her husband told me about it personally, that made it enough of my business to be curious as to how it's handled. And no, I don't know how the system works. That's why I asked. That's it. Pile on. I can take it. To be a college professor you must not comprehend too well in your reading. The shooting happened several months ago but they just told how she was arrested. Wow, that’s a good way for a Godly man like you claim to be to be talking. You are always quick to pass judgement and talk about what is right and wrong. Quit being so defensive these others are just throwing out questions and observations to a post that you posted
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 08:21 AM
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Dude I'm not always talking about right and wrong. Was I a Godly man at one time? Yeah, more so than now. To be honest, my faith is hanging by a thread now days and I don't need you mothering me or calling out how I talk.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 08:24 AM
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I dont think anyone here is questioning your religion.
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 08:32 AM
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Could it have been a real small town PD where they learn as they go and do as they please? Arab was like that in the 60s and 70s and Guntersville wasn't far behind. In Arab the police shoot each other.
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04/21/18 08:46 AM
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Could it have been a real small town PD where they learn as they go and do as they please? Arab was like that in the 60s and 70s and Guntersville wasn't far behind. In Arab the police shoot each other. no you did not
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Re: Justified shooting protocol??
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04/21/18 08:56 AM
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I think sometimes they take them in. Sometimes they don’t. God forbid I’m ever in such a situation, but I’m talking to an attorney and said attorney will be with me as I give my statement. My statement will be “It was self defense. I need to speak to an attorney before saying anything further.” You have rights and the attorney is necessary to preserve those rights.
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