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Moody put to death. #2464383
04/20/18 06:42 AM
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The main thing about Moody was how he played games with the FBI. He had a plane and would drive to the airport and taxi the plane, then just get back I his car. Every time the Fed's thought he was about to leave the Country. The other thing was the fellow the FBI tried to tie this crime too. I think he had a business in Enterprise. They constantly harassed that guy, searched his business and drained his pond looking for something to tie him to the crime. Does anyone remember that man's name and where he was from? If I remember correctly they destroyed his life and business and never found anything. The judge Moody murdered has a son now in Jefferson County that is a Democrat. Robert Vance Jr, running for Chief Justice for Alabama.Moody's grudge was because he had a conviction 1972 for a pipe bomb. That conviction kept him from practicing law. In 1972 Moodys wife opened a package she found on the kitchen table. It injured her severely and was intended for a car dealer that had repossessed Moody's car. I think this whole affair is disgraceful, Moody deserved a swift punishment, not to be allowed to live off taxpayers since 1997. In 2015 Moody was involved in a Ponzi scheme from prison. Milking money from the elderly from inside prison.

ATMORE, Ala. (AP) — An Alabama inmate convicted of the mail-bomb slaying of a federal judge during a wave of Southern terror in 1989 was executed by lethal injection Thursday, becoming the oldest prisoner put to death in the U.S. in modern times.

Walter Leroy Moody Jr., 83, was pronounced dead at 8:42 p.m. following an injection at the Alabama prison at Atmore. He had no last statement and did not respond when an official asked if he had any last words shortly before the chemicals began flowing.

Authorities said Moody sent out four mail bombs in December of 1989, killing Judge Robert S. Vance, a member of the Atlanta-based 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, in Alabama and Robert E. Robinson, a black civil rights attorney from Savannah, Georgia. Two other bombs, including one mailed to the NAACP office in Jacksonville, Florida, were intercepted and did not explode.

At his 1996 trial, prosecutors described Moody as a meticulous coward who killed Vance with murder by mail because of his obsession with getting revenge on the legal system, and then committed additional package bombings to make it look like the Ku Klux Klan was behind the judge's murder.

Moody became the oldest U.S. inmate put to death since executions resumed in the U.S. in the 1970s, according to the non-profit Death Penalty Information Center. His attorneys argued in court filings and a clemency petition to Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey that his age and vein condition would make lethal injection more difficult.

The U.S. Supreme Court temporarily stayed execution plans Thursday evening to consider Moody's late appeals, but later lifted the stay without comment, allowing the execution to go forward.

Vance was at his kitchen table in Mountain Brook, Alabama, on Dec. 16, 1989, when he opened a package after a morning of errands and yard work.

The explosion ripped through the home near Birmingham, killing Vance instantly and severely injuring his wife, Helen. Prosecutors said Moody, who had attended law school, had a grudge against the legal system because the 11th Circuit refused to overturn a 1972 pipe-bomb possession conviction that prevented him from practicing law.

Moody was first convicted in 1991 in federal court and sentenced to seven life terms plus 400 years. He was later convicted in state court in 1996 and sentenced to death for Vance's murder.

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If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464387
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Good riddance.


Hope you enjoy your stay in hell Moody.


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Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464401
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So why does it take 22 years to execute somebody? That's a million dollars in money the taxpayers spent in keeping this guy alive in prison. I know, I know, it takes more money to execute someone than it does to keep them in prison for life. However, in this case the guy was always going to be executed, so just do it quickly after conviction and save everyone some money.

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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
So why does it take 22 years to execute somebody? That's a million dollars in money the taxpayers spent in keeping this guy alive in prison. I know, I know, it takes more money to execute someone than it does to keep them in prison for life. However, in this case the guy was always going to be executed, so just do it quickly after conviction and save everyone some money.


Yup. Don't need someone executed in 20 minutes but 20 years probably isn't reasonable either.
That said, executing an innocent person is the single biggest wrong a justice system can do.

I'm not saying this guy or others are innocent but it has happened.

Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464413
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This is the whole problem with the justice system. Why did it take 20 years to finally execute this guy? This guy was 83 years old, probably had no idea what was going on. The justice system is a absolute joke. When Timothy McVeigh bombed the federal building, he was executed 6 years after the bombing. This was lighting speed for the death penalty. Either do away with it or streamline to process to actually make the person accountable in a timely fashion.


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Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464424
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Anybody watch that show "Life and Death Row"?
It will disgust you watching all of the stunts that lawyers pull at the last minute trying to get a stay of execution. Makes me even more mad how the court system will cave in to the stunts. It really gives insight to how the convicted criminals have more rights than the victims and the victims families have. Its nothing but torture for the families involved.

I agree that it shouldnt be carried out in 20 minutes, but if DNA proves that you did the crime then you shouldn't be given much time to milk the taxpayers.

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Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464426
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This is the kind of Government abuse that pisses me off. The FBI destroyed this mans life, then walked away. They even searched his septic tank! Sounds more like communist tactics!


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Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464430
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I was a teenager at the time, but remember the ordeal with the guy from Enterprise. It was huge news in that area. Guy was a junk dealer and had business buying/selling goods like a pawn shop. I think the type writer used to type out the addresses on the boxes, was purchased at the junk/pawn shop in Enterprise. Like was stated, the dug the man's septic tank up and ransacked his business and then walked away. Never any charges brought against him. Typical crap our govt can do to us.


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Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464543
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weatherby, is Mr O'Ferrells business still open?


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Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464605
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https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-11th-circuit/1429920.html Looks like the FBI got away with ruining the poor guys life. Imagine that...

Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464616
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they wouldnt even give the man a public apology. He had a daughter in high school at the time. She was beautifull too. Anyways, it kinda left a black cloud over this guy. Like he may have been involved, although he had nothing to do with it other than using the same type writer.

I'm not sure if he's in business, he kinda disappeared after that. Cant blame him, it was a BIG deal at the time.


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Re: Moody put to death. [Re: goodman_hunter] #2464622
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I read through that document really quick but I think I saw it wasn't his typewriter but the type on the letters was close enough where it 'might' have been. At the very least, the FBI should have issued a strong stmt declaring his innocence.

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Right on Perch. Good riddance to Moody but destroying the life of O'ferrell in the process is inexcusable. Reparations should have been made and public apologies issued.

Should not happen in a free republic.


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Originally Posted by SuperSpike


I agree that it shouldnt be carried out in 20 minutes, but if DNA proves that you did the crime then you shouldn't be given much time to milk the taxpayers.


Or those clearly id on video or caught red handed at the scene with no doubt. Cases like that should go 10 years tops before ruling is carried out


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Re: Moody put to death. [Re: perchjerker] #2464646
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No Yankee, the stinking FBI should have to pay for damages they did to his property and business. He sold the typewriter that was used. His wife stated to the FBI that she sold it to Moody's second wife! He should be grateful the FBI swat team didn't burn and murder his family. The FBI has been involved in several terrible miscarriages of Justice and no one was charged! Can you say WACO AND RUBY RIDGE?


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Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

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Originally Posted by perchjerker
No Yankee, the stinking FBI should have to pay for damages they did to his property and business. He sold the typewriter that was used. His wife stated to the FBI that she sold it to Moody's second wife! He should be grateful the FBI swat team didn't burn and murder his family. The FBI has been involved in several terrible miscarriages of Justice and no one was charged! Can you say WACO AND RUBY RIDGE?


Oh, I completely agree. Personally, if I was treated like he was, my life's mission would be to remain a huge pain in their ass by letting the world know what they did, and then didn't, do.

Re: Moody put to death. [Re: Damyankee] #2464671
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Indeed, Moody has been served justice.
A very diabolical psychopath on the level of some of America's "greatest" psychopaths.

And Robert Wayne O'Ferrell of Enterprise was totally abused by the FBI, but never received any compensation
or even an apology - which is what he wanted the most.

There were a lot of heavy hitters in the FBI at the time of the raid on O'Ferrell's business and house that had egg
on their face and refused to admit their mistake, because it would have damaged their careers and legacies - Louis Freeh,
Dick Thornburgh and others.


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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Indeed, Moody has been served justice.
A very diabolical psychopath on the level of some of America's "greatest" psychopaths.

And Robert Wayne O'Ferrell of Enterprise was totally abused by the FBI, but never received any compensation
or even an apology - which is what he wanted the most.

There were a lot of heavy hitters in the FBI at the time of the raid on O'Ferrell's business and house that had egg
on their face and refused to admit their mistake, because it would have damaged their careers and legacies - Louis Freeh,
Dick Thornburgh and others.



Do the feds ever admit mistakes?
Hell, the dude that pegged Vicky Weaver at Ruby Ridge is/was sheriff of San Diego county.

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No they don't.

We are all mostly conservative law and order people around here and very supportive of law enforcement.

But when such a huge mistake happens, it is a shame when the law hides behind "sovereign immunity" to deny fair compensation.

It would take an act of Congress for him to ever be compensated, and the Federal Government is more concerned with urinating
trillions of taxpayer dollars down the toilet elsewhere - like welfare, the United Nations, foreign "aid" and $5000 hammers.


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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
Originally Posted by WmHunter
Indeed, Moody has been served justice.
A very diabolical psychopath on the level of some of America's "greatest" psychopaths.

And Robert Wayne O'Ferrell of Enterprise was totally abused by the FBI, but never received any compensation
or even an apology - which is what he wanted the most.

There were a lot of heavy hitters in the FBI at the time of the raid on O'Ferrell's business and house that had egg
on their face and refused to admit their mistake, because it would have damaged their careers and legacies - Louis Freeh,
Dick Thornburgh and others.



Do the feds ever admit mistakes?
Hell, the dude that pegged Vicky Weaver at Ruby Ridge is/was sheriff of San Diego county.


Better than a murder charge I guess. rolleyes I caught a documentary on WACO the other day. I knew it was bad but didn't know just how bad. All those folks killed for the simple reason that all agencies involved were being made to look like fools. The live footage of the fire was hard to watch.

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