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Re: Custody question
[Re: biglmbass]
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04/12/18 05:07 PM
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Deerslyer86
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3 lessons that I have learned over the years, (this all coming from someone that's never been divorced and has no kids), but has been through a lot of them with friends and family.
1. Divorce is the worst financial decision that a man will ever make.
2. What ever makes perfect common sense is 180 degrees opposite by law.
3. Whom ever decides to represent himself in a court of law, has an idiot for an attorney and will lose. 4. You never really know a woman until you see her in divorce court. I luckily never married the crazy woman. “Heavy on the CRAZY”
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Re: Custody question
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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04/12/18 05:08 PM
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Shotts
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In Alabama the father is at a distinct disadvantage, and it is our fault for failing to make this a priority with our legislators. If fathers rights received half the attention as the legalization of corn there would be some reasonable changes.
I fought this battle, with the best attorney money could buy and got no where and I am as straight up as they come, never any drugs, alcohol, or anything more than a speeding ticket.
I can tell you this and it will aggravate the crap out of you but if you are divorced do not spank your children find other ways to correct them as this will only cause problems. If she makes a DHR claim it must be investigated regardless if it is basis less or not.
Mine resolved but if I ever were to find myself in that position again I would take a completely different strategy, which is extreme but if nothing else works then call friends family whatever and become completely unemployed for 3 months work for cash off the books and see if she liked getting 86% of 0 which is where my crooked ass temporary order stood.
Life is difficult Science prevails over bulldoodoo and superstition every time
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Re: Custody question
[Re: Holcomb]
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04/12/18 09:32 PM
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BowtechDan
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3 lessons that I have learned over the years, (this all coming from someone that's never been divorced and has no kids), but has been through a lot of them with friends and family.
1. Divorce is the worst financial decision that a man will ever make.
2. What ever makes perfect common sense is 180 degrees opposite by law.
3. Whom ever decides to represent himself in a court of law, has an idiot for an attorney and will lose. For #1, How do you put a price on getting to live again (divorced) vs just being alive (staying together and going through the motion)?
Nathan Carl Goff 19 Sept 2016 - 14 Jan 2017.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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04/12/18 09:45 PM
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The most stupid law in America is that they will give you a free lawyer for stealing a case of beer but a person can lose their rights to their children without any representation being provided if they cant afford it. Now that is the type law that should be changed. Pro se is for idealistic fools especially in Alabama.
Last edited by jallencrockett; 04/12/18 09:47 PM.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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04/12/18 09:48 PM
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bigcountry692001
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I’m not divorced but many of my fellow soldiers are and from I can tell you have no rights and she can basically do whatever she wants. That may not be the right answer but that’s what it looks like from the outside looking in. . I guess you only have rights when that retirement check stops coming every month. That’s when a judge usually wants to throw you under the jail house If you are married over 10 years she will get half of that too.
"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."
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Re: Custody question
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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04/12/18 09:53 PM
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AUstan23
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Marriage is a scam and a money grab between women and the State. Phuck "love". Phuck "forever". Phuck "I do". Period.
Men are kept in the dark on purpose because otherwise no man would agree to it. Women spend the money men make, economy churns, rinse, repeat.
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: AUstan23]
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04/12/18 10:20 PM
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Marriage is a scam and a money grab between women and the State. Phuck "love". Phuck "forever". Phuck "I do". Period.
Men are kept in the dark on purpose because otherwise no man would agree to it. Women spend the money men make, economy churns, rinse, repeat. Ur wrong.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Custody question
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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04/12/18 10:24 PM
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James
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She’s mad because I busted his butt a few weeks ago with a belt. Sounds like she believes you're a threat to him or he is afraid of you and doesn't want to be around you. Or both. Better get a lawyer. No it’s a power trip with her. I seen it with her ex husband and her when we were together. She thought she got to decide when her ex got her son regardless what the papers said. Tho she was quick to get mad when he stopped paying CS Well Damn that should've been your sign to run like Hell!!!
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Custody question
[Re: AUstan23]
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04/12/18 10:32 PM
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Marriage is a scam and a money grab between women and the State. Phuck "love". Phuck "forever". Phuck "I do". Period.
Men are kept in the dark on purpose because otherwise no man would agree to it. Women spend the money men make, economy churns, rinse, repeat. I’ve seen you post similar stuff before. I have no idea how old you are, you may have a lot of life experience and reason for feeling like you do. But if you’re young, don’t let crotchety old men lead you astray with their jaded opinions. There’s plenty of wonderful women in this world. Go and find one.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: James]
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04/13/18 04:00 AM
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Deerslyer86
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She’s mad because I busted his butt a few weeks ago with a belt. Sounds like she believes you're a threat to him or he is afraid of you and doesn't want to be around you. Or both. Better get a lawyer. No it’s a power trip with her. I seen it with her ex husband and her when we were together. She thought she got to decide when her ex got her. son regardless what the papers said. Tho she was quick to get mad when he stopped paying CS Well Damn that should've been your sign to run like Hell!!! 😂 It was too late when I finally woke and seen it all.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: jallencrockett]
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04/13/18 06:27 AM
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doekiller
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The most stupid law in America is that they will give you a free lawyer for stealing a case of beer but a person can lose their rights to their children without any representation being provided if they cant afford it. Now that is the type law that should be changed. Pro se is for idealistic fools especially in Alabama. That would be you that pesky document called the US Constitution.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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04/13/18 07:04 AM
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I hear a lot of men say that they have no rights in custody matters but I think most go in with that attitude and never really try, they just assume. Putting up a real fight for the right reasons is the first thing a judge notices. The right reason is NOT "I don't want to pay child support".
"We aren't here to justify your feelings and give you self worth" - Aldeer Welcome Center
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Re: Custody question
[Re: doekiller]
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04/13/18 07:08 AM
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jawbone
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The most stupid law in America is that they will give you a free lawyer for stealing a case of beer but a person can lose their rights to their children without any representation being provided if they cant afford it. Now that is the type law that should be changed. Pro se is for idealistic fools especially in Alabama. That would be you that pesky document called the US Constitution. Wouldn't the Supreme Court and Mr. Gideon and Mr. Wainwright also have a say? Alabama Legal Services also provides lawyers to those involved in housing disputes, custody issues, and other non criminal needs for those that need it, but can't afford it.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: AUstan23]
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04/13/18 07:23 AM
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SouthBamaSlayer
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Marriage is a scam and a money grab between women and the State. Phuck "love". Phuck "forever". Phuck "I do". Period.
Men are kept in the dark on purpose because otherwise no man would agree to it. Women spend the money men make, economy churns, rinse, repeat. That's a very sad viewpoint, and frankly one that is dead wrong. Marriage is a covenant between one man, one woman, and their God. Sure, there are women out there that are bat chit crazy and will screw you over first chance they get, but go talk to a couple that have been married for 60 years with God at the head of their household, and listen to them talk about how their marriage is the best thing they've ever and will ever have.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: Remington270]
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04/13/18 07:25 AM
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AUstan23
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Marriage is a scam and a money grab between women and the State. Phuck "love". Phuck "forever". Phuck "I do". Period.
Men are kept in the dark on purpose because otherwise no man would agree to it. Women spend the money men make, economy churns, rinse, repeat. I’ve seen you post similar stuff before. I have no idea how old you are, you may have a lot of life experience and reason for feeling like you do. But if you’re young, don’t let crotchety old men lead you astray with their jaded opinions. There’s plenty of wonderful women in this world. Go and find one. I'm in my 20s but I pay way more attention to systems in place than most. I can't tell you how many times I've listened to women in conversation say they want a "rich man" or "there's my money and there's our money" or "he's got money" or something along those lines. One of my co-workers even said "the best part about my husband is that I get his stuff when he dies". I've had married women make passes at me and seen guys older than me lose everything. The court system is completely biased. If half of marriages end in divorce, how many of the other half are dead marriages that are only together because of kids or some other extenuating circumstance? I'd guess there's another 25% right there. This things considered plus a number of other factors and it's a no from me dawg. Its hard enough to save up enough money as it is. A smart man learns from his mistakes, a wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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04/13/18 07:27 AM
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AUstan23
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Marriage is a scam and a money grab between women and the State. Phuck "love". Phuck "forever". Phuck "I do". Period.
Men are kept in the dark on purpose because otherwise no man would agree to it. Women spend the money men make, economy churns, rinse, repeat. That's a very sad viewpoint, and frankly one that is dead wrong. Marriage is a covenant between one man, one woman, and their God. Sure, there are women out there that are bat chit crazy and will screw you over first chance they get, but go talk to a couple that have been married for 60 years with God at the head of their household, and listen to them talk about how their marriage is the best thing they've ever and will ever have. My grandma is a footwashing Baptist that's been married over 70 years. I asked her directly if she'd marry Paw again and she said no.
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: jb20]
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04/13/18 07:27 AM
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AUstan23
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Marriage is a scam and a money grab between women and the State. Phuck "love". Phuck "forever". Phuck "I do". Period.
Men are kept in the dark on purpose because otherwise no man would agree to it. Women spend the money men make, economy churns, rinse, repeat. Ur wrong. In most cases, no I'm not.
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: AUstan23]
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04/13/18 07:43 AM
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SouthBamaSlayer
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Marriage is a scam and a money grab between women and the State. Phuck "love". Phuck "forever". Phuck "I do". Period.
Men are kept in the dark on purpose because otherwise no man would agree to it. Women spend the money men make, economy churns, rinse, repeat. I’ve seen you post similar stuff before. I have no idea how old you are, you may have a lot of life experience and reason for feeling like you do. But if you’re young, don’t let crotchety old men lead you astray with their jaded opinions. There’s plenty of wonderful women in this world. Go and find one. I'm in my 20s but I pay way more attention to systems in place than most. I can't tell you how many times I've listened to women in conversation say they want a "rich man" or "there's my money and there's our money" or "he's got money" or something along those lines. One of my co-workers even said "the best part about my husband is that I get his stuff when he dies". I've had married women make passes at me and seen guys older than me lose everything. The court system is completely biased. If half of marriages end in divorce, how many of the other half are dead marriages that are only together because of kids or some other extenuating circumstance? I'd guess there's another 25% right there. This things considered plus a number of other factors and it's a no from me dawg. Its hard enough to save up enough money as it is. A smart man learns from his mistakes, a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. One of the reasons that money is on a woman's mind is because security is the single most important thing to them (most women). While there are plenty out there that genuinely just want money, most want what that money symbolizes in a lot of cases, aka security. Also, the "half of marriages end in divorce" is a flawed and inaccurate statement. 1/3 is a much more accurate number.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: AUstan23]
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04/13/18 07:43 AM
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Marriage is a scam and a money grab between women and the State. Phuck "love". Phuck "forever". Phuck "I do". Period.
Men are kept in the dark on purpose because otherwise no man would agree to it. Women spend the money men make, economy churns, rinse, repeat. Damn, what a sad, miserable man you are.
Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
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Re: Custody question
[Re: Deerslyer86]
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04/13/18 08:01 AM
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My ex did this once, she refused to return my daughter when her weekend visitation was over(her and her family were very bad people and the courts knew it so why weekend unsupervised visitation) I was in the army at the time they were no help, had to write and file an emergency petition on my own with the court to get a hearing within weeks and had to get an attorney.
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