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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2434325
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Is there a link to where I could read the entire bill? Can only find the status of the bill but can't read it......

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: hhsdc78] #2434326
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Originally Posted by hhsdc78
Originally Posted by canvasback
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Why are they against it?


Because it basically combines the Dept of Ag and Dept of Conversation into one agency.



I'm confused.....is the house bill and senate bill the same bill or different?



SB 271 & HB21 are two seperate bills. HB21 is the "baiting bill or corn bill" & SB 271 is about combining the two agencies.
Clem is spot on about the effects of SB 271.[/quote]


So SB 271 does not include anything to do with baiting?

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2434332
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No.

Senate Bill 271 is about combining Ag and DCNR, and does not have anything to do with the baiting bills in the Senate and House.


Well ... nothing overt or clear in the writing. But there could be some "Welllll, I won't vote for that if we get to vote for this" chit going on. Sounds like neither one is going to get a vote. Still a bunch of time left, though.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2434334
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^^^^^^^^^^thanks Clem!!

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: Southwood7] #2434342
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Originally Posted by Southwood7
[quote=CNC]Where is written in stone about what hunting has to be?? ....{CNC]

Good post and I think you are spot on! There is A LOT of hypocrisy between hunters judging how another person hunts. Hunting is supposed to be fun and that is defined differently by everybody.


Actually, it was not a good post and was not "spot on."

It was silly nonsense for this reason: it has always for generations until now been etched in stone that hunting had to be based on the
principle of FAIR CHASE, hence bating via corn piles (deer) and crop seeds like wheat (birds) were banned. The point being to preserve
the hunting tradition with a sense of honor and honor code based on fair chase, and to also promote woodsmenship skills.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2434367
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by Southwood7
[quote=CNC]Where is written in stone about what hunting has to be?? ....{CNC]

Good post and I think you are spot on! There is A LOT of hypocrisy between hunters judging how another person hunts. Hunting is supposed to be fun and that is defined differently by everybody.


The point being to preserve
the hunting tradition with a sense of honor and honor code based on fair chase, and to also promote woodsmenship skills.
"Preserve the hunting tradition" Wait Aren't you against dog hunting?



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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: WmHunter] #2434380
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by Southwood7
[quote=CNC]Where is written in stone about what hunting has to be?? ....{CNC]

Good post and I think you are spot on! There is A LOT of hypocrisy between hunters judging how another person hunts. Hunting is supposed to be fun and that is defined differently by everybody.


Actually, it was not a good post and was not "spot on."

It was silly nonsense for this reason: it has always for generations until now been etched in stone that hunting had to be based on the
principle of FAIR CHASE, hence bating via corn piles (deer) and crop seeds like wheat (birds) were banned. The point being to preserve
the hunting tradition with a sense of honor and honor code based on fair chase, and to also promote woodsmenship skills.

So I have to give up my compound bow, now?

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: WmHunter] #2434385
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by Southwood7
[quote=CNC]Where is written in stone about what hunting has to be?? ....{CNC]

Good post and I think you are spot on! There is A LOT of hypocrisy between hunters judging how another person hunts. Hunting is supposed to be fun and that is defined differently by everybody.


Actually, it was not a good post and was not "spot on."

It was silly nonsense for this reason: it has always for generations until now been etched in stone that hunting had to be based on the
principle of FAIR CHASE, hence bating via corn piles (deer) and crop seeds like wheat (birds) were banned. The point being to preserve
the hunting tradition with a sense of honor and honor code based on fair chase, and to also promote woodsmenship skills.
What woodsmanship skills does it take to sit in a shooting house over a green patch? Could you list them alphabetically and I'll take notes.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2434408
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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: Todd1700] #2434449
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Originally Posted by Todd1700
Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by Southwood7
[quote=CNC]Where is written in stone about what hunting has to be?? ....{CNC]

Good post and I think you are spot on! There is A LOT of hypocrisy between hunters judging how another person hunts. Hunting is supposed to be fun and that is defined differently by everybody.


Actually, it was not a good post and was not "spot on."

It was silly nonsense for this reason: it has always for generations until now been etched in stone that hunting had to be based on the
principle of FAIR CHASE, hence bating via corn piles (deer) and crop seeds like wheat (birds) were banned. The point being to preserve
the hunting tradition with a sense of honor and honor code based on fair chase, and to also promote woodsmenship skills.
What woodsmanship skills does it take to sit in a shooting house over a green patch? Could you list them alphabetically and I'll take notes.

please inform us how hunting should be done.

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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: WmHunter] #2434461
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by Southwood7
[quote=CNC]Where is written in stone about what hunting has to be?? ....{CNC]

Good post and I think you are spot on! There is A LOT of hypocrisy between hunters judging how another person hunts. Hunting is supposed to be fun and that is defined differently by everybody.


Actually, it was not a good post and was not "spot on."

It was silly nonsense for this reason: it has always for generations until now been etched in stone that hunting had to be based on the
principle of FAIR CHASE, hence bating via corn piles (deer) and crop seeds like wheat (birds) were banned. The point being to preserve
the hunting tradition with a sense of honor and honor code based on fair chase, and to also promote woodsmenship skills.



Brother, sounds like you've stepped in deep DO-DO and have no way to back out.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2434466
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I guess we need to all go back to making our own bows and arrows (no steel arrows tips so better learn flint napping), but didn’t the plains Indians use horses to run/herd bison off of cliffs? Maybe somebody should have told them about fairchase and all that stuff.


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To the extent any of this may be driven by high fence owners, I wish that deer bred and raised in high fences were just considered livestock and handled as such. Let them hunt in July for all I care, and completely exempt them from all hunting regulations and laws. Have not thought this through completely but it seems that would prevent all this meddling and trying to combine departments in an effort to advance their agenda.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: ColeT] #2434514
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Originally Posted by ColeT
Originally Posted by Todd1700
Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by Southwood7
[quote=CNC]Where is written in stone about what hunting has to be?? ....{CNC]

Good post and I think you are spot on! There is A LOT of hypocrisy between hunters judging how another person hunts. Hunting is supposed to be fun and that is defined differently by everybody.


Actually, it was not a good post and was not "spot on."

It was silly nonsense for this reason: it has always for generations until now been etched in stone that hunting had to be based on the
principle of FAIR CHASE, hence bating via corn piles (deer) and crop seeds like wheat (birds) were banned. The point being to preserve
the hunting tradition with a sense of honor and honor code based on fair chase, and to also promote woodsmenship skills.
What woodsmanship skills does it take to sit in a shooting house over a green patch? Could you list them alphabetically and I'll take notes.

please inform us how hunting should be done.

Are you directing this to me? Because I'm not the one trying to tell you how to hunt. I am just highlighting the inconsistency and hypocrisy of calling someone that would hunt over a feeder an unskilled, unethical slob hunter while being perfectly fine with hunting over a green patch. There is no moral difference and there certainly isn't anymore woodsmanship involved with one or the other.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2434526
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Woodsmanship skills LOL. half the guys I hunt with are 50 years old and older. Most of the time they just want to go sit on a greenfield and there's nothing wrong with that. My Dad who is 54 years old just started hunting with me 3 years ago. He doesn't care about woodsmanship he's just out there to have fun. At the End of the day it's about having fun. If you have fun stalking deer in a swamp with a recurve hey have at it. If some one else wants to sit in a big shorting house wacthing a greenfield with a feeder in the middle I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to just because they don't have "woodsmanship" also If you use any type of camouflage, high powered rifle, scent control, calls, treestands, or attractant scents it's not fair chase. My Grandpa used to to tell me about Man drives they made back in the 80's That's not fair chase.

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Originally Posted by MC21
Woodsmanship skills LOL. half the guys I hunt with are 50 years old and older. Most of the time they just want to go sit on a greenfield and there's nothing wrong with that. My Dad who is 54 years old just started hunting with me 3 years ago. He doesn't care about woodsmanship he's just out there to have fun. At the End of the day it's about having fun. If you have fun stalking deer in a swamp with a recurve hey have at it. If some one else wants to sit in a big shorting house wacthing a greenfield with a feeder in the middle I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to just because they don't have "woodsmanship" also If you use any type of camouflage, high powered rifle, scent control, calls, treestands, or attractant scents it's not fair chase. My Grandpa used to to tell me about Man drives they made back in the 80's That's not fair chase.



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Originally Posted by MC21
My Grandpa used to to tell me about Man drives they made back in the 80's


Your grandpa? The 80s?

Why ... why ... why ... you just watch it, you whippersnapper.

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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: MC21] #2434568
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Originally Posted by MC21
Woodsmanship skills LOL. half the guys I hunt with are 50 years old and older. Most of the time they just want to go sit on a greenfield and there's nothing wrong with that. My Dad who is 54 years old just started hunting with me 3 years ago. He doesn't care about woodsmanship he's just out there to have fun. At the End of the day it's about having fun. If you have fun stalking deer in a swamp with a recurve hey have at it. If some one else wants to sit in a big shorting house wacthing a greenfield with a feeder in the middle I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to just because they don't have "woodsmanship" also If you use any type of camouflage, high powered rifle, scent control, calls, treestands, or attractant scents it's not fair chase. My Grandpa used to to tell me about Man drives they made back in the 80's That's not fair chase.

Well said. Hunting is supposed to be fun.


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