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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2426907
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The "sport" currently has rules and regulations and will have regardless of this. Probably need a better analogy as I don't see the relevance. Where does it say this is detrimental to the herd?

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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2426941
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So is it up for Vote today like someone stated yesterday??


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2426961
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I think it's supposed to be read again on a 17th

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: muddy_buckz] #2426968
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Originally Posted by muddy_buckz
I think it's supposed to be read again on a 17th


Originally Posted by HenryCoHunter
Originally Posted by timbercruiser
https://legiscan.com/AL/text/HB21/2018

Looks like unless it is changed again that the out of state $50 per license was not included, it is $15 per license yearly. Anybody know when calendar day 17 is?



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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2426978
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Today is the 17th legislative day. Been listening to chamber audio tired

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: Clem] #2426998
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Originally Posted by Clem

Let's say, to the post above ^^, that I don't want to hunt anywhere near the "bait" during deer season. Nada.

But I or my club/group have a feeder out with corn/protein in it on another part of the property - let's call it the Whild Bill Sanctuary - and it's a brazillion yards away over three pastures and teh swamp and creek nowhere near where we hunt.

That's "supplemental feeding" and not baiting.

Will the "privilege permit" still be required? Because if so then that's bullchit.


Worse than that is you don't buy a permit but the ones that did put bait in your favorite area. Are you supposed to just give it up? or you go in and hunt not knowing JoBob put out corn and gamewarden pulls up your in same boat as now.
So basically if your going to hunt you have to buy the bait permit.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2427008
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All this is bologna......Its 15 damn dollars!!!!......As expensive as hunting is and as much money as we spend to deer hunt, 15 dollars is nothing.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2427017
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I don't give a chit if it's 15 cents.

The principle is the same: either make it legal or don't but we shouldn't be hit with a "privilege" fee for this.

Right now our annual resident hunting license is about 25 bucks. Let's go ahead and make it $40. It's just 15 damn dollars! Why not?


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: pcamper] #2427020
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Originally Posted by pcamper
All this is bologna......Its 15 damn dollars!!!!......As expensive as hunting is and as much money as we spend to deer hunt, 15 dollars is nothing.


But my Lifetime License was bought with the understanding that I wouldn't ever have to pay to hunt again. I understand that I don't have to buy the permit and hunt over corn, but if one guy in a club does then we all have to. Either make it straight up illegal or legal and quit trying to put stipulations on it.

And duck stamps are different because they were in effect when I got my Lifetime License.


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2427021
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Ask the DCNR.

It was a compromise to offset the loss of Revenue from tickets is what it states.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2427029
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Geez, just tack on $15 to the license fees going forward and be done with it. It's amazing that they can have language in the bill/law that collects additional money, yet nowhere in said bill does it declare what fund or otherwise what the money will go towards.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: hallb] #2427034
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Originally Posted by hallb
Geez, just tack on $15 to the license fees going forward and be done with it. It's amazing that they can have language in the bill/law that collects additional money, yet nowhere in said bill does it declare what fund or otherwise what the money will go towards.


Make it legal period and increase the license simultaneously. Don't call it a permit fee. Lifetime license holders don't do anything differently. Landowners don't do anything differently. Clubs can choose to do whatever the heck they want.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2427040
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By calling it a DCNR license, it earmarks the moneys for the Conservation Dept.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2427043
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I do not think that the current Law allows such an increase in license.
But, they CAN add a fee.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: Hogwild] #2427048
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Originally Posted by Hogwild
I do not think that the current Law allows such an increase in license.
But, they CAN add a fee.


Or a "permit."

Similar to other states (Tennessee, Mississippi) where you buy a hunting license and then also have to buy a permit for bow, gun, muzzleloader or crossbow.

(That will come next. Bank on it.)


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: Clem] #2427059
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Hogwild
I do not think that the current Law allows such an increase in license.
But, they CAN add a fee.


Or a "permit."

Similar to other states (Tennessee, Mississippi) where you buy a hunting license and then also have to buy a permit for bow, gun, muzzleloader or crossbow.

(That will come next. Bank on it.)


I do not doubt that.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: teamduckdown] #2427108
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Did they discuss or vote on the bill today? I tried to get the Senate audio/video, but it never would load for me.

Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: timbercruiser] #2427149
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On principle I agree with most of you...legalize it or don't, but forget making it a privilege tax. But let's get real. This is politics. No one gets exactly what they want in politics. DCNR is not going to give up the cash cow of baiting tickets without replacing the funds somehow. If we want to be done with the ridiculous baiting ban, we are going to have to pay for it. It's worth 15 bucks a year to me.

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This means baiting will be mandatory, right? laugh


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Re: Rumor coming thru.. (Baiting Bill) [Re: jawbone] #2427191
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Originally Posted by jawbone
Originally Posted by pcamper
All this is bologna......Its 15 damn dollars!!!!......As expensive as hunting is and as much money as we spend to deer hunt, 15 dollars is nothing.


But my Lifetime License was bought with the understanding that I wouldn't ever have to pay to hunt again. I understand that I don't have to buy the permit and hunt over corn, but if one guy in a club does then we all have to. Either make it straight up illegal or legal and quit trying to put stipulations on it.

And duck stamps are different because they were in effect when I got my Lifetime License.




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