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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: Out back] #2416650
02/23/18 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by hallb
Ya'll quit sending your folks down here to FL on vacation and we'll stop sending ours up there to hunt, deal?

You don't have to worry about me. I ain't lost nothing in Florida.


Have you even left the county you live in in the last 5 years?

Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416651
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I don't think a non-resident should pay any more than a resident.
For anything, including a hunting license.
For example, a man who grew up in Alabama, still owns property in Alabama, but moved to another state because of his work.
Why should he be required to pay 10 times more for a hunting license than me?


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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: hallb] #2416653
02/23/18 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by hallb
Ya'll quit sending your folks down here to FL on vacation and we'll stop sending ours up there to hunt, deal?

You don't have to worry about me. I ain't lost nothing in Florida.


Have you even left the county you live in in the last 5 years?

Absolutely. I've been to Texas, Louisiana, Minnesota and Indiana, just in the past year.


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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416665
02/23/18 12:26 PM
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Had a contractor in our plant from south bama once . We got to talking about deer hunting and he began to Bîtch about what he called "coastes" causing the price of leases to increase in his area etc . Then he went on to talk about how he liked hunting the Midwest so much . So I asked . What do you think them boys up in the Midwest think about folks from bama hunting in their neck of the woods ? That mfer gave me the most puzzled look and said he never even thought about that . This tickled me cuz the whole conversation got started after he asked me about trading some offshore fishing for a hunt in the ol woodpecker stand . Lol .

Complicated baiting regs is dumb . Make it legal or not plain and simple .

Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: Out back] #2416668
02/23/18 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Out back
I don't think a non-resident should pay any more than a resident.
For anything, including a hunting license.
For example, a man who grew up in Alabama, still owns property in Alabama, but moved to another state because of his work.
Why should he be required to pay 10 times more for a hunting license than me?


Should he still get to vote in Alabama, too?


"Hunting Politics are stupid!" - Farm Hunter

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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416669
02/23/18 12:31 PM
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OK, just so we're clear....we're banning all guns today, and legalizing all corn?

Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416670
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And making non-resident license fees go up by 40 percent.

Corn, guns and license fees.


Wait, aren't these rooted in the Revolutionary War?

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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: Clem] #2416671
02/23/18 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Clem
Originally Posted by Out back
I don't think a non-resident should pay any more than a resident.
For anything, including a hunting license.
For example, a man who grew up in Alabama, still owns property in Alabama, but moved to another state because of his work.
Why should he be required to pay 10 times more for a hunting license than me?


Should he still get to vote in Alabama, too?

Actually yes!
I believe voting should be limited to white male property owners.


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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416677
02/23/18 12:38 PM
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I agree that it needs to be a simple law, Legal or not, no more gray areas.

But if they cant make it a simple statement about it being legal they should do the sticker on a feeder like a house trailer has. It will get complicated quick if one person in a club (or a neighbor) puts out corn and then someone gets a ticket because of it. If it is done as a licence for the person I guess I will buy one even though I dont bait just so I would be safe.


I have a stand in the edge of a pasture that has timber on 3 sides. Two sides are not my property, and about mid January I was sitting there and at 3pm I could hear a feeder go off in the woods (not on my property). I could hear the spinner and also hear the corn hitting the legs of the feeder. I have no idea how far away it was so I might not have been legal. The only way for me to know would have been to trespass to measure it. I didnt leave my stand that day and was willing to pay an undeserved ticket if I had received one. But I did not go back to that stand because I dont want a ticket. The neighbor should not be able to do something that reduces the places on my property I can hunt.

If they did the sticker on the feeder and the GW finds one without a sticker he should be allowed to destroy it like a moonshine still. But the possibilities of feeders on the other side of a property line could make this complicated. Would be much easier if they just said it was legal, but that would not enable the state to make any money and that is what it is all about.


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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: Clem] #2416766
02/23/18 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Clem
And making non-resident license fees go up by 40 percent.

Corn, guns and license fees.


Wait, aren't these rooted in the Revolutionary War?

And on the brink of boycotting Florida


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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: Clem] #2416772
02/23/18 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Clem
And making non-resident license fees go up by 40 percent.

Corn, guns and license fees.


Wait, aren't these rooted in the Revolutionary War?


No, but they are readily available in the big pen.


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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416938
02/23/18 04:08 PM
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Just read it passed.
http://www.alreporter.com/2018/02/23/house-approves-hunting-hogs-deer-bait/
The bill passed 79-14 . It now goes to the Alabama Senate for its consideration.

Last edited by SCR00BK; 02/23/18 04:19 PM.
Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: SCR00BK] #2416940
02/23/18 04:09 PM
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Huh. Well alrighty then.

Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416947
02/23/18 04:14 PM
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Yes, but on to the Senate now as mentioned previously

Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416950
02/23/18 04:15 PM
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My bad. I saw the earlier update but was interpreting it now as fully passed....then I finished the article. smile We'll see where it goes from here.

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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: mcninja] #2416955
02/23/18 04:23 PM
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It will die in the Senate, as it should.


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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416963
02/23/18 04:36 PM
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I don't think it will die in the Senate this time around. Too many states have legalized hunting over bait all around us and Alabama doesn't benefit at all from keeping out of state hunters from getting the opportunity to hunt over bait like they do in Kentucky, Georgia and Mississippi. Time for Alabama to catch up to the rest of them.

I don't agree with it at all but if they pass as predicted, I guess I will have to learn to live with it. I run a club, and I have considered not allowing it even if it passes but you have to keep members to pay the lease. Decisions will have to be made about planting food plots for sure.

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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: mcninja] #2416969
02/23/18 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mcninja


Huh. Well alrighty then.

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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: bamaeyedoc] #2416978
02/23/18 04:51 PM
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We need to do whatever Kentucky does. They let you hunt near feed and they got great hunting. You can’t turkey hunt near it. You’ll notice I called it feed and not bait. Recommend y’all follow that terminology.


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Re: "baiting bill" going to floor today [Re: SouthBamaSlayer] #2416988
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Originally Posted by SouthBamaSlayer
Originally Posted by dirkdaddy
I see Alabama's deer population, which is a shared state resource, as no different than something like a professional sports stadium. We (the states residents) hold a valuable resource that many desire to use, and in my opinion, we don't charge out of state hunters enough for it. If the deer hunting in Alabama is only so-so, then those out of state hunters can talk with their wallets and not buy an expensive out of state hunting license. The visceral reaction to this suggestion is all you need to know about whether out of state residents would continue to buy a license. If the hunting wasn't so good here compared to their home states they'd laugh it off and not care. We need to take pride in what our state has to offer and charge accordingly. We have more woods and huntable land here than almost any other state in the nation when you take into state size and population.


I hunt AL because that's where I'm from, that's where my friends hunt, and that's where I have access to land. None of those have anything to do with money. Do plenty of out of state people hunt AL and have money? Sure, but don't lump everyone into one category. Also, I would bet that out of state hunters already contribute almost as much, if not more money to the state than in-state hunters do, by the time you add up the $306 license, fuel, food, lodging, etc.


Is Bama's $300?


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