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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412434
02/19/18 12:51 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting

Will they ban all of these too?
I was just curious what weapons he used.


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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: bill] #2412439
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Originally Posted by bill
At least they're better than democrats..... rolleyes

This is what happens when you keep voting for bad candidates just because the other side is a little worse. You keep giving more and more power to the liberal contingent of republicans until they become the voice of the party. The RNC never had to put up better candidates or move more toward the right because voters never demanded better. They voted for the R because the D was a little worse. This is the end result. Two democratic parties ruling over the country and trampling our rights.


That's the problem. Decsribed perfectly.

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412443
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The Republican party was formed because the Wig party stood for nothing.
Maybe the Republicrats should think about that.

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412475
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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412481
02/19/18 01:31 PM
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Any current senator or congressman who votes for this BS should be targeted by the NRA in the coming elections. Trump would not be President if not for the support of the NRA, which he sought out very early in his campaign. I hope Wayne Lapierre reminds him of this fact.


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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412485
02/19/18 01:35 PM
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Universal background checks mean you cant give your children, nephew, grandson/daughter or any family member your firearms without a background check. This is the biggest bunch of bullSHIITE I've ever heard of universal background check,,,Yeah right!!!!!!. Some of you need to investigate what youre supporting before you shoot off at the mouth.

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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412493
02/19/18 01:41 PM
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What method should I use to hold them to a higher standard, not vote for them? Yep, that's a good plan that will get us a whole bunch of Democrats elected. But, I think some folks would be OK with that b/c then they could say - "welp, not my fault, I didn't vote for them".

The mindset of "I'm only voting for the perfect candidate" will lead us to being ruled purely by the Democrat party. As much as folks like to say "they're all Democrats anyways", well they aren't. You are crazy if you want to argue that Schumer/Pelosi/Durbin are the same as Jordan/Meadows/Nunes and yes, even McConnell/Ryan. As much as it feels good to say it, they just aren't the same.

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: deadeye48] #2412494
02/19/18 01:42 PM
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Honestly though, the system by which we currently purchase firearms and carry concealed/open needs to be totally gone through and fixed nation wide. The problem though, is that neither side will come to terms EVER. There is absolutely ZERO working with each other and that really is sad.


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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412497
02/19/18 01:47 PM
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We are already ruled by the democratic party. Just because some of them call themselves republicans doesn't make it less true. This issue is a prime example. But keep voting for them because that strategy seems to be working great and the RNC agrees.


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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412499
02/19/18 01:50 PM
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I just renewed my NRA membership.

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: bill] #2412509
02/19/18 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bill
We are already ruled by the democratic party. Just because some of them call themselves republicans doesn't make it less true. This issue is a prime example. But keep voting for them because that strategy seems to be working great and the RNC agrees.



Sure will. And your answer to this would be?

"Hold them to a higher standard". "Write in a candidate when they won't put forth the perfect conservative candidate I want".

Yeah, that'll work. There has been a viable 3rd party candidate in almost every nationwide election since the 70's (Ralph Nader?)



STILL hasn't resulted in getting them to propose a candidate you can vote for without holding your nose, has it?

Tell you what it HAS done. It got Slick Willie elected when Perot ran against he and Bush. It also got Doug Jones in the Senate from Alabama. Do you like Doug better than you would have Roy Moore? I don't. In 95% plus of open elections in this country you have two choices. Just like the POTUS election 1.5 years ago. It was going to be Trump or Hillary. Period. End of story. Imagine if enough people had decided to follow your noble plan and write in someone or not "hold their nose and vote for a subpar R candidate. What if stupidity like that got Hillary elected? Would THAT have resulted in you getting your preferred R candidate next time?

No, It would have resulted in the end of our Republic IMHO, and the people like you responsible would have been no better than traitors in my mind.

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412511
02/19/18 02:04 PM
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There are no perfect candidates.. that's true but f we keep voting the same way and getting the same results because they think we have no where else to go..that wont work.

A choice between a Marxist and a Socialist isn't a choice at all.

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412518
02/19/18 02:18 PM
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If you don’t want a background check done buy 80% AR lowers and build your own.


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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: ] #2412519
02/19/18 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RobertD
Originally Posted by bill
We are already ruled by the democratic party. Just because some of them call themselves republicans doesn't make it less true. This issue is a prime example. But keep voting for them because that strategy seems to be working great and the RNC agrees.



Sure will. And your answer to this would be?

"Hold them to a higher standard". "Write in a candidate when they won't put forth the perfect conservative candidate I want".

Yeah, that'll work. There has been a viable 3rd party candidate in almost every nationwide election since the 70's (Ralph Nader?)



STILL hasn't resulted in getting them to propose a candidate you can vote for without holding your nose, has it?

Tell you what it HAS done. It got Slick Willie elected when Perot ran against he and Bush. It also got Doug Jones in the Senate from Alabama. Do you like Doug better than you would have Roy Moore? I don't. In 95% plus of open elections in this country you have two choices. Just like the POTUS election 1.5 years ago. It was going to be Trump or Hillary. Period. End of story. Imagine if enough people had decided to follow your noble plan and write in someone or not "hold their nose and vote for a subpar R candidate. What if stupidity like that got Hillary elected? Would THAT have resulted in you getting your preferred R candidate next time?

No, It would have resulted in the end of our Republic IMHO, and the people like you responsible would have been no better than traitors in my mind.


Bill comes out swinging from the corner any time politics are mentioned. It's the hatred somehow of Trump. For the last time, can you just put it aside? Trump was not my choice by a wide margin, I don't like his tweets, I don't like some of the things he has done. However, he has accomplished a tremendous amount given his nonsupport from congress and the media. I honestly don't think the candidate of my choice would have accomplished as much as he has. If it wasn't for the candidate that the majority of those on this site voted for, we would be led by Hilary and already have new gun control laws.

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: CatHeadBiscuit] #2412532
02/19/18 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CatHeadBiscuit
If you don’t want a background check done buy 80% AR lowers and build your own.



How does that avoid it? The receiver is what has the serial number and requires the background check??

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: jhardy] #2412539
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Originally Posted by jhardy
Originally Posted by RobertD
Originally Posted by bill
We are already ruled by the democratic party. Just because some of them call themselves republicans doesn't make it less true. This issue is a prime example. But keep voting for them because that strategy seems to be working great and the RNC agrees.



Sure will. And your answer to this would be?

"Hold them to a higher standard". "Write in a candidate when they won't put forth the perfect conservative candidate I want".

Yeah, that'll work. There has been a viable 3rd party candidate in almost every nationwide election since the 70's (Ralph Nader?)



STILL hasn't resulted in getting them to propose a candidate you can vote for without holding your nose, has it?

Tell you what it HAS done. It got Slick Willie elected when Perot ran against he and Bush. It also got Doug Jones in the Senate from Alabama. Do you like Doug better than you would have Roy Moore? I don't. In 95% plus of open elections in this country you have two choices. Just like the POTUS election 1.5 years ago. It was going to be Trump or Hillary. Period. End of story. Imagine if enough people had decided to follow your noble plan and write in someone or not "hold their nose and vote for a subpar R candidate. What if stupidity like that got Hillary elected? Would THAT have resulted in you getting your preferred R candidate next time?

No, It would have resulted in the end of our Republic IMHO, and the people like you responsible would have been no better than traitors in my mind.


Bill comes out swinging from the corner any time politics are mentioned. It's the hatred somehow of Trump. For the last time, can you just put it aside? Trump was not my choice by a wide margin, I don't like his tweets, I don't like some of the things he has done. However, he has accomplished a tremendous amount given his nonsupport from congress and the media. I honestly don't think the candidate of my choice would have accomplished as much as he has. If it wasn't for the candidate that the majority of those on this site voted for, we would be led by Hilary and already have new gun control laws.


You say a lot but don't know much. Trump has been better than I expected and the Senate and congress has been exactly what I expected.

Traitor? You're all entitled to your opinions even if you're wrong. I do find it comical how devoted some are to a party that couldn't care less if you breathe your last breath today but will attack like minded people who would likely help you if you needed it.

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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: Remington270] #2412545
02/19/18 02:45 PM
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The sad part is this shooting would not have been prevented with a background check. I believe he passed one.

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: hallb] #2412556
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Originally Posted by hallb
Originally Posted by CatHeadBiscuit
If you don’t want a background check done buy 80% AR lowers and build your own.



How does that avoid it? The receiver is what has the serial number and requires the background check??



80% lowers don't have serial numbers.


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Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: 1bamashooter] #2412571
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Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Originally Posted by TexasNative
I see raising the age to 21 for gun purchases. I have no problem with universal background checks. Open up the system to everyone, not just FFL's. All you need is a Yes or No answer on the background check. If the Dem's get control, I bet they will require the automation of the BAFT database and tracking of all gun purchases and transfers. I really don't see an AR ban.

What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" do you not understand?


I understand it very well. What part infringes on your right to purchase a weapon?

Re: Republicans will pass gun control [Re: DryFire] #2412575
02/19/18 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasNative
Originally Posted by 1bamashooter
Originally Posted by TexasNative
I see raising the age to 21 for gun purchases. I have no problem with universal background checks. Open up the system to everyone, not just FFL's. All you need is a Yes or No answer on the background check. If the Dem's get control, I bet they will require the automation of the BAFT database and tracking of all gun purchases and transfers. I really don't see an AR ban.

What part of "Shall Not Be Infringed" do you not understand?


I understand it very well. What part infringes on your right to purchase a weapon?


The background check. If the liberals can argue that having a damn driver's license is a legitimate burden on voting, I fail to see how a background check (and also waiting periods) isn't also a burden. Of course it is. Do we need background checks for ammo too? No big deal, right?

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