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Concrete counter tops? #2406389
02/13/18 05:23 AM
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Has anyone done these?

Even though I have a ton (literally) of salvaged granite, Mrs. Irish and I have decided that it's just not going to look right in the cabin, and we are going to DIY our own concrete counter tops. After much research into the subject it looks like we basically have 2 options:

1. Build reverse forms out of melamine, caulk the seams and pour the concrete with reinforcing mesh, let cure, flip it out, sand polish and then seal and wax.
2. Screw on hardieboard down to the tops of the cabinets, screw on the plastic bullnose forms, pour the concrete with reinforcing mesh, screed, wait, trowel with a magnesium trowel, wait, trowel with a steel trowel, let cure and then sand, polish, seal and wax.

I'm leaning towards the second option, because I think in the end it will be less work and I will have counter tops with no seams.

I figure if this chick and do it I can:

https://www.addicted2decorating.com/diy-pour-in-place-concrete-countertops-part-1.html

Hers turned out looking pretty good.

This place has the plastic snap off forms that I'm planning on using:

https://www.concretecountertopsolutions.com/product/half-bullnose

My questions are these for those who have done it:

1. Do I use crushed stone int he mix? I've seen it done with stone and with just sand.
2. Do I make the mix thick or soupy?

I'm leaning more towards just sand in the mix and no stone and making the mix about the consistency of pancake batter so it flows better. Then using a palm sander (without paper) to vibrate all the air bubbles out of it.

Here's a picture kind of what I have in mind:

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Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406394
02/13/18 05:37 AM
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I have no experience with this but am highly interested to see how it turns out. I’m sure you’ll do a great job given how everything else is turning out. Best of luck with it!

Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406418
02/13/18 06:54 AM
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I helped do my friends kitchen counter tops in his house about 8 years ago. Still works fine. He has a little gap between the sink and concrete. I just dont like that. Looks just like in your picture. Im thinking food and water gets inside there and causes germs ans smells. Thats the only thing i dont like about them. His has a little bigger gap. And what if you have to change your sink??

Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406427
02/13/18 07:11 AM
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Interested also to see how it turns out. I need a grill table top outside and have thought about concrete. Also thought about granite. You selling any of the granite?

Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406450
02/13/18 08:04 AM
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I would say no rocks... I am no expert but if I put any rocks in it they would be very small and not many of them...



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Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406452
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Keep in mind that you will have water splashing up on those rocks and with all of the crevices/etc, you are going to have mold growth in your kitchen over your clean dishes.


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Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406482
02/13/18 08:47 AM
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I did all my countertops for my outdoor kitchen and all my steps on 3 doors to the house. Quick Crete makes a counter top mix in a blue bag and its high. $25-$30. My garage was the only slick finish I had. We sprayed a release agent (Form oil) all over the garage floor and the forms(2x4's). They do sell form liners which can be used multiple times to give you a raw edge look. I did these and just tacked them up on the inside of the forms with a few finish nails.
I would suggest a small electric concrete mixer, buy one and resale it or rent one. Nothing is added to the counter top mix however we did use chicken wire in mine and it worked great. It mixes up very wet, like pour it out of a 5 gallon bucket wet. Let them set up a week before you wreck the forms. Once cured they will still try to stick to the slab on the finish side. I used all kinds of pry bars on a couple, and laying a 2x4 flat as a beater block and a sledge works pretty well. I warn you they can crack one of mine did. I would not try to do 1 solid pour around the sink. I did and mine cracked on that narrow front edge. After all this -concrete stain however you like and seal it. If all this is too much My buddy owns a concrete business and custom builds these. I sure he would do it for you. PM me and I will sen you my # if I can help

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Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406486
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Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406494
02/13/18 09:04 AM
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do it do it do it! After we flipped them we did wet sand them, He started with around 160 grit and went up to like a 240 and said he even goes higher grit than that. I will try to take a couple pics of mine when I get home. For real, if your worried We can build them in his shop and you can pick them up in Moulton when He's finished. They need to cure a minimum of 2-3 weeks depending on temps.


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Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406589
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Someone on here built a outdoor nest for his BGE, with a concrete countertop. During the pour, he dusted with cement coloring and darn, if it didn't look just like a granite countertop. Really impressive.


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Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406600
02/13/18 10:19 AM
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We are looking at a house now that is not quite finished and the concrete countertops would be an option. So with that being said I am watching this thread lol.

Any undermount sink has a small gap like that. Our current house has granite countertops and we have a small gap like that. My wife will use a brush and clean it on occasion but its not a big deal.

Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406626
02/13/18 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Then using a palm sander (without paper) to vibrate all the air bubbles out of it.



A saw saw without a blade also works good in the corners.


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Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Jakethesnake] #2406660
02/13/18 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakethesnake
I helped do my friends kitchen counter tops in his house about 8 years ago. Still works fine. He has a little gap between the sink and concrete. I just dont like that. Looks just like in your picture. Im thinking food and water gets inside there and causes germs ans smells. Thats the only thing i dont like about them. His has a little bigger gap. And what if you have to change your sink??


Our friends are giving us this old porcelain farmhouse sink. It drops in.

Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Beer Belly] #2406661
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Originally Posted by Beer Belly

Keep in mind that you will have water splashing up on those rocks and with all of the crevices/etc, you are going to have mold growth in your kitchen over your clean dishes.


We're probably going with Subway tile. The rock would be hard to clean.

Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: TexasNative] #2406663
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Originally Posted by TexasNative
Someone on here built a outdoor nest for his BGE, with a concrete countertop. During the pour, he dusted with cement coloring and darn, if it didn't look just like a granite countertop. Really impressive.


I seem to remember that too.

Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406664
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Originally Posted by TexasNative
Someone on here built a outdoor nest for his BGE, with a concrete countertop. During the pour, he dusted with cement coloring and darn, if it didn't look just like a granite countertop. Really impressive.


I seem to remember that too.

Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406775
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That looks really nice!

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I'm interested in seeing how it turns out if you do it as well, been thinking of doing it at our place, but don't want to spend that kind of money and screw it up... slap

Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406878
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The concrete countertops that I've seen installed were all poured somewhere else and then installed the same way granite countertops are. I'm sure its expensive but they do look nice

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Re: Concrete counter tops? [Re: Irishguy] #2406894
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Keep us posted on this. I am looking at doing the same on my build.

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