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#2368570 - 01/12/18 09:20 AM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
87dixieboy Offline
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#2368664 - 01/12/18 10:18 AM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
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#2368946 - 01/12/18 12:52 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CNC Offline
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Loc: Macon Co
Well I’m a firm believer now in a dog being able to track after the rain…….because that is by far the heaviest rain we’ve had fall on a track and it was like it didn’t even matter. Just how hard was it raining you ask????

That’s pretty damn hard……… grin




Edited by CNC (01/12/18 12:56 PM)
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#2368947 - 01/12/18 12:53 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CNC Offline
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Otis took us about 400 yards past where they jumped the deer last night where he got him up out of its bed and immediately bayed it up. The only problem was that the deer was just inside of some little pines that were extremely thick. I eased in to the bay and could see Otis but I couldn’t see any part of the deer. I started circling the bay to try and spot the deer but just couldn’t see it. Finally I spotted it head looking at me and that’s about the time it broke bay. I had told the hunter stop as I was easing in to the bay and he said he saw the deer cross the road as it broke. He said it looked messed up in the front end. I figger it was a front leg hit. We lit out after the deer and Otis got him bayed up again up ahead of me. He was pushing this one as hard as I’ve seen him push a deer. Before I could even catch up though, the buck broke again. He made a bee line this time for the neighbors property and that’s where we had to call it off. That sucks....but it is what it is.

The double slings worked like a charm to carry my rifle and it felt good to have my old gun in my hands again. I may be able to just roll with my old 30-30 for a bay gun. This one would have been screwed if he would have just bayed up in a different spot. Oh well.... on to the next one……………. smile


Edited by CNC (01/12/18 12:57 PM)
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#2368963 - 01/12/18 01:04 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CCC Offline
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Question, who reports the deer on their license if it was alive and well with a leg wound, but you shoot it with the bay gun?


Edited by CCC (01/12/18 01:08 PM)

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#2368993 - 01/12/18 01:24 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CCC]
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Originally Posted By: CCC
Question, who reports the deer on their license if it was alive and well with a leg wound, but you shoot it with the bay gun?


I would bet CNC has already answered the question you ask by answering the question I asked earlier in the thread. grin

Originally Posted By: CNC
I ain't seen chit..... grin

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#2369010 - 01/12/18 01:34 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CNC Offline
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I hear what you’re saying but what am I supposed to do about it? I have no idea when I go on a track what I’m for sure dealing with until it unfolds. When I’m easing into a bay situation, I have no idea if the deer is barely alive on the ground or standing up with his leg blown off. Most of these deer are wounded to the point that they’re likely gonna die some slow death or be taken out by yotes anyways. We trackers are on salvage missions. What would have me do if it were your deer…..let him go? smile


Edited by CNC (01/12/18 01:36 PM)
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#2369074 - 01/12/18 02:17 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CCC Offline
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Loc: Birmingham, AL
Originally Posted By: CNC
I hear what you’re saying but what am I supposed to do about it? I have no idea when I go on a track what I’m for sure dealing with until it unfolds. When I’m easing into a bay situation, I have no idea if the deer is barely alive on the ground or standing up with his leg blown off. Most of these deer are wounded to the point that they’re likely gonna die some slow death or be taken out by yotes anyways. We trackers are on salvage missions. What would have me do if it were your deer…..let him go? smile



I agree with you. You gotta shoot. I was just thinking about it.

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#2369091 - 01/12/18 02:27 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
jbc Offline
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Registered: 09/01/15
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Originally Posted By: CNC
Well I’m a firm believer now in a dog being able to track after the rain…….because that is by far the heaviest rain we’ve had fall on a track and it was like it didn’t even matter. Just how hard was it raining you ask????

That’s pretty damn hard……… grin




damn, a frog strangler. i've only heard of them

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#2369112 - 01/12/18 02:47 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: jbc]
CNC Offline
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Posts: 7572
Loc: Macon Co
Originally Posted By: jbc
damn, a frog strangler. i've only heard of them


If I’m lying, I’m dying…..that frog was laying in the edge of road right where I stepped out of my truck. Y’all are just lucky it didn’t rain hard enough to be a turd floater. laugh
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#2369481 - 01/12/18 08:23 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CCC]
CNC Offline
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Loc: Macon Co
Let me clarify something I said…..I didn't word it well.

I meant to say that most of the deer we are able to bay up are injured pretty badly and will probably die from their injuries or yotes……not that most of the deer we track will die. I imagine there’s a good percentage of deer that we track that live and are fine. You’re not likely to bay those up though. You never even see them. If I can bay it up with an overgrown beagle though, then I would think a pack of yotes would surely take it down. It's just a matter of time.


Edited by CNC (01/12/18 08:28 PM)
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#2369997 - 01/13/18 10:54 AM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CNC Offline
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Call just came in from the morning hunt…….

The hunter on this one is a young kid. They’ve found blood and bone for 100 yards and then nothing. This is gonna be another leg hit. We’ll just see how it plays out this time. Hopefully it’ll be a high leg hit on this one and he’ll be dead.

To be continued……..
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#2370091 - 01/13/18 12:04 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
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#2370223 - 01/13/18 02:19 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CNC Offline
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Loc: Macon Co
Well I hate to disappoint……but there just wasn’t much of a story to tell on this one. We tracked to him but he didn’t even attempt to bay up out of the bed this time. He just got up and took off. Otis went after him but we were only on 600 acres so it didn’t take us very long to hit the property line and that’s where we had to call it off.

On a side note to this track. I have to believe that these leg shots are just sitting ducks for the yotes. A wound that severe is like blood in the water. If you just take my thread as a small sample size of what happens across the state, then there are lots of leg shots occurring. However, how many of you have a three legged deer on your property that you've been getting pics of all summer and fall??? Maybe one or two but probably not many….Why?....Because they eventually get taken out after being wounded. JMO


Edited by CNC (01/13/18 02:20 PM)
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#2370262 - 01/13/18 02:49 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
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Loc: Clanton
I had one make it two years but finally disappeared.
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#2370276 - 01/13/18 03:01 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: Turkey_neck]
CNC Offline
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Posts: 7572
Loc: Macon Co
Originally Posted By: Turkey_neck
I had one make it two years but finally disappeared.


I had one missing a back leg make it several years here at my home property. It always amazed me that he was able to survive and not get caught because he was seriously immobilized with only one back leg. He had a really funny walk that looked like a struggle. There’s no way he could run fast enough to get away from dogs. He eventually never showed back up.

I think it we were able to look at the true numbers then the long term survivors would be a very small percentage of leg hits. There’s gotta be chit loads of leg shot deer across the state, probably something in the thousands….. but three-legged deer are pretty rare. Most of us are probably lucky if we ever see one. That would mean that most of them don’t make it. I bet a couple yotes would push a three-legged deer pretty hard if they got in behind it.


Edited by CNC (01/13/18 03:02 PM)
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#2370309 - 01/13/18 03:29 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
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We have one. It’s a spike and most likely hit by car. It’s his rear leg and he gets along without it . I’ve actually seen him twice and seems like he gonna make it but you never know. When I first started getting pics of him I never thought he would with the yotes we have.
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#2370320 - 01/13/18 03:37 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: countryjwh]
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Originally Posted By: countryjwh
We have one. It’s a spike and most likely hit by car. It’s his rear leg and he gets along without it . I’ve actually seen him twice and seems like he gonna make it but you never know. When I first started getting pics of him I never thought he would with the yotes we have.

We had a doe get hit the same this year in late bow season. I never saw her again after the one afternoon I jumped her below the house.
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#2370887 - 01/13/18 10:54 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
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Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 7711
Loc: Montgomery / Luverne
We had one get shot 2 years ago basically at the knee joint on the back leg. Next pics we got the leg was gone. He made it to the next fall and seemed to be pretty healthy. Somebody shot him in December the next year. His rack was messed up from the injury though

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#2371084 - 01/14/18 08:30 AM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
jbc Offline
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Registered: 09/01/15
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Loc: Montgomery, AL
I’ve heard 7 rifle blasts before 7:30 this morning

You should be busy today

Edit: 6 more 7:30-8:00

13 total now


Edited by jbc (01/14/18 09:01 AM)

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#2371117 - 01/14/18 09:18 AM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: jbc]
CNC Offline
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Posts: 7572
Loc: Macon Co
Originally Posted By: jbc
I’ve heard 7 rifle blasts before 7:30 this morning

You should be busy today

Edit: 6 more 7:30-8:00

13 total now


Damn! Maybe they’ll start calling in a little while. I figured I would have gotten more calls yesterday evening as pretty an afternoon as we had. One call came in from a guy who had shot one just after daylight and had spent all day looking for it. I don’t turn too many tracks down but I referred that one to another tracker to see if they could go ahead and track it last night. I just didn’t like my chances on that one after 25-26 hrs.
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#2371217 - 01/14/18 11:04 AM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CNC Offline
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Posts: 7572
Loc: Macon Co
Call just came in from the morning hunt.......

Don't know a whole lot of details on this one. I've tracked for these folks before and they just pretty told me to come on they had a big one they needed me to find. Sounded like the shot was close and the hunter feels good about it. We'll see......


To be continued....
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#2371275 - 01/14/18 12:02 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
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At our club based in Troy, the rut has not kicked in yet. I sat yesterday afternoon and saw 7 does, 9 fawns and 8 or 9 bucks and they did not mess with the does at all. Still a week or so away I think.

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#2371494 - 01/14/18 04:05 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CNC Offline
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Loc: Macon Co
The hunter must have just grazed this one or something. There was hardly any blood at all…..just a few specks at the hit site and that was it. Otis seemed to track it well though. We went about 400 yards and got the deer up. It never attempted to bay up though. We pushed it hard for about a mile but it was moving on. You could see its running tracks ahead of us every time it crossed an interior road or went through a muddy spot. We eventually called it off. frown
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#2371519 - 01/14/18 04:25 PM Re: The Tales of Otis and Shelby Lou [Re: CNC]
CNC Offline
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Call came in while I was gone for tomorrow morning……..

Deer was shot late this morning. Hunter started tracking it within 45 minutes of the shot and spent most of the day progressing the track for 800+ yards. They’ve finally ran out of blood and lost it. Its not far from home so I agreed to meet them in the morning to see what we can do with it. It sounds like its bleeding pretty decently but its more than likely being pushed. We’re gonna give it overnight to see if lays down and dies. Not sure what kind of hit we're dealing with. Hoping for a low gut hit.

To be continued……..


Edited by CNC (01/14/18 04:26 PM)
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