I would agree with the Double Bull, BUT...I have had one now for 7 years and I cant even start to tell you how many times I have had to replace broken fiberglass rods. They always seem to break right at the hub and during set up. I know I have replaced all but 2 over the years, which means 18 of them have broken. The original excuse was they went to China and got a bad batch that had not cured properly. Then they blamed in on the design of the hub. Nothing is more frustrating than to be setting up your blind and rod snap on you. Why Primos cant find a material that is flexible and will not break or just totally redsign the dang hub is beyond me. I just orders 5 packs of 4 rods, totalling 20 so I should be coverd for the next few years.