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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: jallencrockett] #2335792
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Originally Posted By: jallencrockett
If a neighbor is a brown its down then its ok for Brad to do whatever he wants????

Thats crap guy! The animals belong to the people ( you and me ) and it is ethically and morally wrong to interfere with anybody elses hunt if they are hunting legally.

Everybody should have the right to do whatever they want up to the point, but, before they take away from another persons rights..


You're arguing against yourself. Ethics and morals are in the eye of the beholder. I think it is unethical to shoot stupid, easy to kill, immature, young bucks before the reach maturity. There's no challenge to killing a first or second year buck other than being able to pull the trigger and shoot straight. That's my personal opinion. I don't fault or look down on anyone for what they want to shoot or not shoot. That's a personal decision for each of us to make on our own.

Everybody should have the right to do what they want to do with their property. The neighbor is interfering with Brad's right to try to grow the best deer he can. Brad wants to grow deer, the other guy wants to shoot whatever he wants. Other guy has the absolute right to hunt right on the line if he wants to. Brad in turn has the right to do everything that he wants to do on his side of the line to protect the deer he's growing so that they can reach older age classes. Both have rights and both can do whatever they want as long as it is legal and on their own property. Brad can fence the other guy out if he wants to. It's perfectly legal. You're essentially saying that the other guy's right to kill anything he wants trumps Brads right to try to grow older deer on his property. The other guy has no right to deer on Brads property just like Brad doesnt have a right to the deer on the other guy's property. That guy can kill the hell out of every deer he sees on his property if he wants to, and Brad can let them all walk on his property. If the other guy is smart, he'll move off the line and everyone will be happy. If he doesnt, then he has to deal with the consequences of his decision to put the house there which might mean a nice tall fence between him and where the deer are coming and going to to feed.
Brad is not fencing in the state's deer. They are free to move as they please, he would just be limiting where they can and cannot cross over onto the other property. That's Brad's right just like it is the other guy's right to shoot what he wants. If he wants to kill a bunch of deer, maybe he should spend some time and money improving his habitat so that he holds them on his property, like Brad has done. The other guy has 200 acres of cutover to hunt. There is a reason as to why he set that shooting house up on the line between his property and Brad's 8 acre food plot that doesnt get hunted. I can promise you it's not because it's the only place on his 200 acres he can hunt. He's trying to take advantage of Brad's management activities and the deer he's growing. He can do that and Brad can combat it. Both are legal in doing so.

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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2335850
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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2335865
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Abolt you wrote that treatise and its just wrong. Brad's action was to intentionally take away from his neighbors legal right to hunt via feeder. Wrong is wrong no matter how many replies. Ethics/morals are not subjective. Im tagging out on this one. Hope the men resolve it best for both.

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2335878
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I, in turn, completely feel that your position on the matter is wrong. We can agree to disagree on this one. You've got your opinion and I've got mine. I think it is unethical for someone to set up on a property line, as close as legally possible, with the sole intent to take advantage of someone else's hard work and efforts. I'm out too.

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2335906
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yea he should of put the stand on his land where the deer aren't


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2335959
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It seems like talking with the neighbor would be the thing to do and then make a decision on how to proceed from there.

Side note: if he's as good at hunting as he is building shooting houses there's probably not gonna be much threat to "your" deer.


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BCLC] #2336034
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If this were a good duck hole in Arkansas there would have been a fire before the mud dried on the guy's post hole diggers.

Not kidding.


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336056
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Having bad neighbors is the worst. Constant drama. Its been like that in every club ive been in.


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336100
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Abolt 300 do you know either of these guys? Seriously you have lept to some pretty incredible conclusions.

And who plants an 8 acre plot with no intentions of ever hunting it???

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: Whild_Bill] #2336107
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Having bad neighbors is the worst. Constant drama. Its been like that in every club ive been in.


No Shite? I can't imagine why

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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: abolt300] #2336314
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Originally Posted By: abolt300
I'm betting that 75% of the posters on this thread that are bashing Brad are not landowners and probably never will be. They do not understand the cost associated with owning and maintaining a decent sized tract of land especially if you are taking the time and effort to intensively manage it for wildlife and grow good deer.

The bashers are the types that would love to have someone like Brad next to them so that they could take advantage of his hard work and 'free load" off of his intensive management efforts while they do nothing but show up and hunt the property lines without doing anything at all $$$ wise to improve their own land and hunting opportunities. I understand exactly where Brad is coming from.


This^^^


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336421
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and around 'n around we go... rolleyes

Only one thing I know for sure - Deer have never seen a county plat map.


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336443
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At least he has 200 acres. All my line hunting neighbors have 1 acre and a corn pile

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336458
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Everyone. All of them...

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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336461
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I’m pullin for Brad.

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336498
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Couple 4x4’s as tall as the box stand then add a sheet of plywood at their eye level with a few no hunting signs nailed to it.


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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336540
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Good grief. What a bunch of spoiled kids here. Leave a polite note on the ladder in a zip-lock bag asking him to give you a call. When he calls, try talking to him with at least a little respect, man to man, not jackass to jackass. A 12 dollar sheet of OSB solves the problem, or you can make life unpleasant for the both of you. Your call.

Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336552
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in this story you have two a$$$ one dumb a$$ and one smart a$$ . now figure out who's who ?????? rofl

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Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: Frankie] #2336560
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Originally Posted By: Frankie
in this story you have two a$$$ one dumb a$$ and one smart a$$ . now figure out who's who ?????? rofl



Re: Dam Neighbors [Re: BradB] #2336570
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A few rows of trees planted on ‘Brad’s’ side of the line would be solve this so-called problem, wouldn’t it?
Looks like his field is cleared right up to the line allowing him to ‘hunt’ right up to the line. Heck, he can literally see the deer as it crosses the property line from his neighbor’s land. He is perfectly legal to shoot it, too! So, he is Line Hunting just as much as the other guy. They are both perfectly legal and well within their Rights to hunt just as they are doing now. If there is a problem, then the only thing they can control is their own actions......not that of their neighbors.

And, you are not going to have any Luck getting any of the GW’s that I know to take that Bait. You will most likely get a lecture about placing a feeder on the line and/or clearing and planting property lines. They are not naive. Nor do they have the time to act as Counselors to whiny people hunting lines complaining about their neighbors doing the same.

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