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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
[Re: AU7MM08]
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12/15/17 04:52 PM
12/15/17 04:52 PM
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Mbrock
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I was poisoned with temik. Y'all remember that? 8 years ago. Farming/poison is greek to me, how does it impact humans? Is it an inhalation thing, a small cut on your hand or eating some critter that was somewhere in the downward progression it takes or ?? In the granular form it has to be ingested or absorbed through the skin via some type of catalyst. Water, oil or sweat will do the job just fine. It only takes 1/1000 of an ounce to be fatal to ad adult. I absorbed it through cuts on my hand while getting my poisoned dogs saliva on them. Put me down quick. I'm a walking miracle.
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/15/17 05:25 PM
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I heard matts story and was amazed hes still here. Good lord deffinately had his eyes on you. Ive seen their dispenser up close. Its a neat little design. I had originally heard they were experimenting with differnt levels of toxicity with brodifacoum, but its an aticoagulant and i suppose its less humane than how sodium nitrite works. I believe its about the same process of prevention of oxygen bonding with red blood cells like carbon monoxide poisoning. It will be intresting to see how this turns out.
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
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12/15/17 05:29 PM
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Its a cholinesterase inhibitor. Basically it short circuits your nervous system.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
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12/15/17 06:24 PM
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Jesus in Alabama also. Boy they truly know who the stupid people are. As an environmental scientist who has spent 20 years doing environmental studies it horrifies me that they would introduce a potential toxin that might reach the human food chain. INSANE!
Last edited by jallencrockett; 12/15/17 06:25 PM.
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
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12/15/17 07:50 PM
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Per the articles fact sheet "If a treated feral swine is killed by a hunter before it succumbs to the toxicant, its blood would be unusually thick and chocolate brown in color."
An overdose of sodium nitrite reduces the ability of blood to transfer oxygen to tissues, a condition known as methemoglobinemia. The mode of death is similar to carbon monoxide poisoning. Once enough sodium nitrite bait is eaten, the feral swine gets faint, is rendered unconscious, and quickly dies. In most cases, feral swine die within 2.5 to 3 hours after eating a lethal dose
How will hunters know if a feral swine has eaten sodium nitrite bait and what are human health impacts? A. It is unlikely that a hunter will shoot a feral swine exposed to a lethal dose of sodium nitrite because animals die within a few hours of eating the bait. If a swine does not eat enough bait to become sick, it simply metabolizes the remaining sodium nitrite. If a treated feral swine is killed by a hunter before it succumbs to the toxicant, its blood would be unusually thick and chocolate brown in color.
Preliminary data show low levels of nitrite in the meat of feral swine killed with sodium nitrite. However, the EPA assessment of human health impacts is ongoing. The stomach and digestive tract of treated feral swine will contain sodium nitrite residues and residual bait. These organs should be discarded. Skin contact with sodium nitrite bait is not considered harmful under normal circumstances. However, persons with a peanut allergy should avoid all contact with the bait or digestive tract contents. Pesticide labels typically require the use of gloves when handling products and health experts recommend hunters wear gloves and other protective equipment when processing feral swine to protect against diseases the animals may carry.
"Q. Is the toxic bait available for use? A. No. The goal is to register the sodium nitrite bait for use with feral swine with the EPA by 2020-2021. In 2016, an application was submitted to the EPA by APHIS Wildlife Services for an experimental use permit to conduct field trials starting in 2018.
Q. Who will be allowed to use the toxic bait? A. If registered by the EPA, the toxic bait will be available for use by APHIS Wildlife Services certified applicators or those working under their authority."
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
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12/16/17 07:37 AM
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Isnt there a poison that turned their insides blue? Wayfarin. So glad Texas didn't give final approval to use this to control feral hogs.
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
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12/16/17 07:40 AM
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imo this is a horrible idea. First thing that came to mind for me, too.
Well behaved women never make history.~ Out back Quit laughing...I think I broke something.
Fifteen is my limit on Schnitzen-Gruben, Baby...
I have OCD and ADD, so everything has to be perfect, but only for a minute.
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
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12/16/17 07:42 AM
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Lets be very clear. This is the reason why ol Clarence Thomas AKA Mr. Monsanto is on the Supreme Court ( Real world Pelican Brief) so that Chem corp's can profit.
Common sense is that at no time should this toxin be tested during open deer season. Cross contamination at processors is a possibility. Where on earth did you read Monsanto made this?
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/16/17 08:23 AM
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Lets be very clear. This is the reason why ol Clarence Thomas AKA Mr. Monsanto is on the Supreme Court ( Real world Pelican Brief) so that Chem corp's can profit.
Common sense is that at no time should this toxin be tested during open deer season. Cross contamination at processors is a possibility. Where on earth did you read Monsanto made this? Never read that. I am just stating why crap like that poisen is even given an opportunity to make someone sick is due to the same machine that places the former lead council of a chemical company on OUR SUPREME COURT.
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
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12/16/17 08:25 AM
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Whatever. Monsanto never made temik. Or this "poisen" either. I don't even think this hog treatment is labeled a true poison.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
[Re: 257wbymag]
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12/16/17 09:30 AM
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Out back
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If I find a dead pig, I'm not going to eat it. If I kill one, I will know where it came from and if any wildlife agency has applied poison to the area. The fact is, there's places (especially in South Alabama) where hogs are out of control and causing tremendous property damage. You can't hunt them enough. You can't trap them enough. They have no natural predators and they are the most prolific species on earth. Something has to be done, they're almost indestructible.
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Re: Well folks maybe some relief in sight
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12/16/17 09:33 AM
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Exactly. If you've ever lost a field, a crop, or anything else damaged you'd be for this program. This isn't 1930. Technology today and oversight isn't going to allow dangerous "poisen" to be used.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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