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Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301917
11/22/17 06:22 AM
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Depends on the deer, they don't all act same.


Grandma said...Always keep a gun close at hand, you just never know when you might run across some varmint that needs killing...
Re: How many and how close? [Re: Grant_UAB] #2301929
11/22/17 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: Grant_UAB
Originally Posted By: BamaGrad85
Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Man, I don’t think they come lay down in the exact spot every time. I also think you way overthink this deer hunting stuff. But if it makes you happy, and you enjoy racking your brain over the exact spot they sleep, when, and why, have at it.
And beds that are 1500’ apart, I bet you’d do better playing the lottery as to bet that’s the same deer.


imo , deer do not just randomly lay down . when they lay down theres a reason they are there. i've seen them come to the same patch of sage in a clear cut day after day . you find a beeding area theres a reason it there .

weather will make them change bedding spots . so i dont know if over thinking it is a bad idea , one thing for sure luck will only get you so far . some point if you want kill deer ever year you got to know the deer habits .

I’m aware of all that. His post sounded like he was talking about a specific buck and finding his specific beds hundreds of yards apart. Maybe I read it wrong?? If somebody knew a deer that well and wanted to kill him, it would’ve been done already.



I beg to differ. A few years ago I found a real nice 8 pointers bedroom . I just happened to be in the right spot at the right time when I saw him standup to stretch and lay back down. It was totally inaccessible by man without him knowing you were coming well in advance and there were several avenues of escape. I had to have a certain wind to even get remotely close enough to get a shot. It finally happened the 1st week of January and the Good Lord blessed me with a really nice, old 8 pointer. I went the euro mount way, but had the taxidermist age it for me. It was aged at 6-7+ years old. I posed the question on here a couple of years ago pertaining to that buck's bedroom. When a big buck is killed, will another buck take over his preferred bedding area? I've been hunting for over 40 years and prefer hunting old deer. A lot bigger challenge by far. Off soapbox carry on.


How do you go about hunting an old deer vs 3 year old dear? Is there really a difference?


In my experience, old deer are kinda like us old folks in that they're set in their ways. They probably would change their habits if forced to but tend to keep to the same routine. The 8 pointer I described above, I watched that buck from a distance of 300-400 yards away, from opening day until I killed him in early January. The closest I was able to get was 100 yards, and that was the day I shot him. He bedded in the same area every day that I could tell. It was the ideal set up too. He had food, water and cover right that. When I recovered him there were bed spots everywhere in the immediate area. They don't get old being stupid, granted a doe can change that aspect during a certain time of the year.


I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301969
11/22/17 07:06 AM
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Game cameras have done more than anything to open my eyes to this. The same buck will be on cameras all over the place, and I mean miles apart sometimes. I think you're literally hunting ghosts lots of the time.

My parents own 22 acres, it's a large hardwood ridge with a few fingers. The next door landowner cut his timber 6 years ago now, it's about 100 acres, and from my parents' treeline I could literally see 90% of this cutover. To me, it was obvious, this is where EVERY deer within a 5 mile circle should be bedded ALL the time. However, I'd sit on that cut multiple days and not see a deer (or at least not a buck), then check my cameras and have bucks on it maybe the day before or day after, just random. Over time I noticed other people I knew in the area had "my" bucks on their cameras too, some of which would be long distances away, even across major highways. It was highly unlikely that I sat on that big cutover that many times and they just never happened to stand up...they simply weren't there much of the time. I often share the story of the "crab claw 7pt", which I had 1000's of pics of. Very heavy mass, extremely identifiable with odd crab claws on the end of each beam. I had this deer on my camera at 7:50 AM on Thanksgiving morning that year (I was actually in there hunting), and he was killed by a friend on Black Friday morning over 2 miles away. Not rutting, no reason whatsoever to be that far off the next day. After talking to my friend, he said he had 1000's of pictures of that deer too, sometimes on the same days that I did.


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Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2302007
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I have had bucks lay down next to a hot scrape several times even mature bucks during the rut. Wide open areas. I am assuming they picked that spot to either keep other bucks run off or watch for does. probably both. I have a video of a big buck that laid down right next to scrape and stayed there for several hours just resting and looking around. Had no idea a camera was within 5 feet of him.

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