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How many and how close? #2301291
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I've seen deer flop down anywhere for short periods but I gotta believe they have certain places they want to be when they're seriously sleeping.

Does anybody know how many regular beds a buck will utilize typically and how far apart they might be? I have 3 beds that I believe are being used by bucks. One is about 1500' from another and a third is roughly 500' from the one in the middle. If you drew a line it would sort of dogleg. 2 are in sort of classic buck bed areas, high spots with sharp drop offs, lots of rubs around the area. So what I don't know is whether this is one buck sleeping in different places or 3 different bucks. Seems kinda close proximity for multiple bucks but I don't know. What say y'all?

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301309
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Yep

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301331
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Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301344
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They will bed with other bucks at times. It could be that its the same buck taking advantage of the wind direction for that day. Wind to back, looking downwind and watching back trail. Its hard to tell if its multiple bucks alot of the time. If its on a real narrow point, he'll shift around that point depending on wind direction and it'll look like several different deer, but he's just shifting beds.

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301418
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from what i've read they don't really sleep ,,,, sleep.

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301438
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I don't think they sleep long, but I know they do kind of catnap and doze off.

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301446
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Man, I dont think they come lay down in the exact spot every time. I also think you way overthink this deer hunting stuff. But if it makes you happy, and you enjoy racking your brain over the exact spot they sleep, when, and why, have at it.
And beds that are 1500 apart, I bet youd do better playing the lottery as to bet thats the same deer.


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Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301591
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we used to dog hunt an i have jumped as many as 6 bucks within 30 ft of each other this time of year

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Johnal3] #2301602
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Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Man, I dont think they come lay down in the exact spot every time. I also think you way overthink this deer hunting stuff. But if it makes you happy, and you enjoy racking your brain over the exact spot they sleep, when, and why, have at it.
And beds that are 1500 apart, I bet youd do better playing the lottery as to bet thats the same deer.


imo , deer do not just randomly lay down . when they lay down theres a reason they are there. i've seen them come to the same patch of sage in a clear cut day after day . you find a beeding area theres a reason it there .

weather will make them change bedding spots . so i dont know if over thinking it is a bad idea , one thing for sure luck will only get you so far . some point if you want kill deer ever year you got to know the deer habits .

Re: How many and how close? [Re: tiger1432] #2301608
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Originally Posted By: tiger1432
we used to dog hunt an i have jumped as many as 6 bucks within 30 ft of each other this time of year


i love being a driver . the dogs are bad about jumping the trash and then me jumping the bucks . i layed a few out like that years back

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Frankie] #2301619
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Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Man, I dont think they come lay down in the exact spot every time. I also think you way overthink this deer hunting stuff. But if it makes you happy, and you enjoy racking your brain over the exact spot they sleep, when, and why, have at it.
And beds that are 1500 apart, I bet youd do better playing the lottery as to bet thats the same deer.


imo , deer do not just randomly lay down . when they lay down theres a reason they are there. i've seen them come to the same patch of sage in a clear cut day after day . you find a beeding area theres a reason it there .

weather will make them change bedding spots . so i dont know if over thinking it is a bad idea , one thing for sure luck will only get you so far . some point if you want kill deer ever year you got to know the deer habits .

Im aware of all that. His post sounded like he was talking about a specific buck and finding his specific beds hundreds of yards apart. Maybe I read it wrong?? If somebody knew a deer that well and wanted to kill him, it wouldve been done already.


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Re: How many and how close? [Re: Johnal3] #2301652
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Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Man, I dont think they come lay down in the exact spot every time. I also think you way overthink this deer hunting stuff. But if it makes you happy, and you enjoy racking your brain over the exact spot they sleep, when, and why, have at it.
And beds that are 1500 apart, I bet youd do better playing the lottery as to bet thats the same deer.


imo , deer do not just randomly lay down . when they lay down theres a reason they are there. i've seen them come to the same patch of sage in a clear cut day after day . you find a beeding area theres a reason it there .

weather will make them change bedding spots . so i dont know if over thinking it is a bad idea , one thing for sure luck will only get you so far . some point if you want kill deer ever year you got to know the deer habits .

Im aware of all that. His post sounded like he was talking about a specific buck and finding his specific beds hundreds of yards apart. Maybe I read it wrong?? If somebody knew a deer that well and wanted to kill him, it wouldve been done already.


you know the land you'll kill deer . if ,,, the deer stays on the land . i've see bucks move a mile to other beding areas .

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301704
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I think if a buck is not getting pressured on a heavily hunted spot of land like Skyline, bucks will use the same beds day in and day out regardless of wind. I spend most of my time finding the exact location of his bed and that's where I hunt him. Cause yall all know well as I do, they don't move much during daylight hours. But he will around his bed.

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301795
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Since deer spend 80+% of their time bedded, I spend a lot of time around "bedding areas" (think cutovers). I'm not interested in laser-specific beds though because in Alabama I've seen no pattern to their bedding. Crap, I've seen them feeding on white oaks in open hardwoods before, lay down and stay there 3 hours, but they certainly don't bed there daily, or maybe even ever again. I think they just bed "where they are". Alabama deer are so random, impossible to pattern. Today he's right here in that cutover, tomorrow he's across the highway on your neighbor, the next day he's a mile away from there, just like roaming nomads with no purpose. He gets ready to bed, flop, wherever he is. You have a 2,000 acre hunting club and the same buck is all over that land from day to day, gone completely for two weeks, never see him in the same place twice. But being on or near a general bedding "area" is high percentage....most of your overall deer population will generally bed in that big cutover persay, but it doesn't mean the same deer(s) will be there repeatedly.

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Re: How many and how close? [Re: ikillbux] #2301807
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Originally Posted By: ikillbux
Since deer spend 80+% of their time bedded, I spend a lot of time around "bedding areas" (think cutovers). I'm not interested in laser-specific beds though because in Alabama I've seen no pattern to their bedding. Crap, I've seen them feeding on white oaks in open hardwoods before, lay down and stay there 3 hours, but they certainly don't bed there daily, or maybe even ever again. I think they just bed "where they are". Alabama deer are so random, impossible to pattern. Today he's right here in that cutover, tomorrow he's across the highway on your neighbor, the next day he's a mile away from there, just like roaming nomads with no purpose. He gets ready to bed, flop, wherever he is. You have a 2,000 acre hunting club and the same buck is all over that land from day to day, gone completely for two weeks, never see him in the same place twice. But being on or near a general bedding "area" is high percentage....most of your overall deer population will generally bed in that big cutover persay, but it doesn't mean the same deer(s) will be there repeatedly.
This 1000%

I have often thought that most of the habitat in Alabama (not all) is one giant bedding area. Cutovers planted pines...etc.. That is exactly what makes them so difficult to pattern. However if you have found a preferred bed by a good one targeted buck you have done well. Hunt him and kill him.

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301848
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Not to say it's the same deer all the time, but I've always been of the opinion a certain area can draw deer to it, such as a good bedding area. Just like you kill a turkey off a certain ridge and there is another one there 2 days later gobbling his head off. Or pull a big bass off a stump and there is another one there the next day.

Some areas are just a magnet for wild critters.

Re: How many and how close? [Re: Smells] #2301858
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I believe another reason deer don't bed in the same spot every day is because of predators.
If a deer goes in the same way day after day and to the same place, they are basically telling all the Coyotes hey go up trail A cos we be partying up in block D

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Originally Posted By: 3toe
Not to say it's the same deer all the time, but I've always been of the opinion a certain area can draw deer to it, such as a good bedding area. Just like you kill a turkey off a certain ridge and there is another one there 2 days later gobbling his head off. Or pull a big bass off a stump and there is another one there the next day.

Some areas are just a magnet for wild critters.

Now this I agree with...
Id bet its pretty few times a deer actually lays down in the exact same spot, unless its a very small area that they bed in. Id bet wind direction and speed, weather, sun position, all has something to do with it.


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Re: How many and how close? [Re: Johnal3] #2301883
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Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Man, I dont think they come lay down in the exact spot every time. I also think you way overthink this deer hunting stuff. But if it makes you happy, and you enjoy racking your brain over the exact spot they sleep, when, and why, have at it.
And beds that are 1500 apart, I bet youd do better playing the lottery as to bet thats the same deer.


imo , deer do not just randomly lay down . when they lay down theres a reason they are there. i've seen them come to the same patch of sage in a clear cut day after day . you find a beeding area theres a reason it there .

weather will make them change bedding spots . so i dont know if over thinking it is a bad idea , one thing for sure luck will only get you so far . some point if you want kill deer ever year you got to know the deer habits .

Im aware of all that. His post sounded like he was talking about a specific buck and finding his specific beds hundreds of yards apart. Maybe I read it wrong?? If somebody knew a deer that well and wanted to kill him, it wouldve been done already.



I beg to differ. A few years ago I found a real nice 8 pointers bedroom . I just happened to be in the right spot at the right time when I saw him standup to stretch and lay back down. It was totally inaccessible by man without him knowing you were coming well in advance and there were several avenues of escape. I had to have a certain wind to even get remotely close enough to get a shot. It finally happened the 1st week of January and the Good Lord blessed me with a really nice, old 8 pointer. I went the euro mount way, but had the taxidermist age it for me. It was aged at 6-7+ years old. I posed the question on here a couple of years ago pertaining to that buck's bedroom. When a big buck is killed, will another buck take over his preferred bedding area? I've been hunting for over 40 years and prefer hunting old deer. A lot bigger challenge by far. Off soapbox carry on.


I came, I saw, so I killed them all......Vern
Re: How many and how close? [Re: BamaGrad85] #2301907
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Originally Posted By: BamaGrad85
Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: Johnal3
Man, I dont think they come lay down in the exact spot every time. I also think you way overthink this deer hunting stuff. But if it makes you happy, and you enjoy racking your brain over the exact spot they sleep, when, and why, have at it.
And beds that are 1500 apart, I bet youd do better playing the lottery as to bet thats the same deer.


imo , deer do not just randomly lay down . when they lay down theres a reason they are there. i've seen them come to the same patch of sage in a clear cut day after day . you find a beeding area theres a reason it there .

weather will make them change bedding spots . so i dont know if over thinking it is a bad idea , one thing for sure luck will only get you so far . some point if you want kill deer ever year you got to know the deer habits .

Im aware of all that. His post sounded like he was talking about a specific buck and finding his specific beds hundreds of yards apart. Maybe I read it wrong?? If somebody knew a deer that well and wanted to kill him, it wouldve been done already.



I beg to differ. A few years ago I found a real nice 8 pointers bedroom . I just happened to be in the right spot at the right time when I saw him standup to stretch and lay back down. It was totally inaccessible by man without him knowing you were coming well in advance and there were several avenues of escape. I had to have a certain wind to even get remotely close enough to get a shot. It finally happened the 1st week of January and the Good Lord blessed me with a really nice, old 8 pointer. I went the euro mount way, but had the taxidermist age it for me. It was aged at 6-7+ years old. I posed the question on here a couple of years ago pertaining to that buck's bedroom. When a big buck is killed, will another buck take over his preferred bedding area? I've been hunting for over 40 years and prefer hunting old deer. A lot bigger challenge by far. Off soapbox carry on.


How do you go about hunting an old deer vs 3 year old dear? Is there really a difference?


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