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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/06/17 06:42 AM
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remeber 2 years ago when all the bama fans were complaining about not running the ball enough? Now they're running it and yall are complaining about the passing.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/06/17 08:27 AM
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ikillbux
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Hurts is an average to slightly below average passer, but is supremely efficient/safe in overall execution. Tua is an elite passer, likely NFL arm talent and has the quickest release I've ever seen on a QB, but is an unknown (to the fans at least) as it relates to efficiency/safety. What do you do? I guess the thing is Alabama fans have had supreme safety for 10 years now, and by golly it has worked. But we wanna know what happens if you maintain 95% of that "safety" and add the elite/NFL passing????? Could be a step backwards, or.....
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: goodman_hunter]
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11/06/17 08:31 AM
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remeber 2 years ago when all the bama fans were complaining about not running the ball enough? Now they're running it and yall are complaining about the passing. I'm not wanting to run less, pass more, or anything like that. I'd just like to see a higher completion percentage and more sophistication in the passing game. Heck, if we're gonna throw the ball 25 times per game (about the season average so far), I'd like to complete 70+% of them. I don't want to change anything about our offense, just see a more lethal passer WHEN WE DO PASS.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/06/17 09:52 AM
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Phil_Army
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I would bet that Bama has more 3-and-out's than any other top-10 team this year. I like that Hurts stays calm but I'd also like to see some fire out of him when they come out and slop it up for 3 plays and then punt. We can win with Hurts, that's been proven. But the offense can be shut down significantly with him as the QB, that's what cost us the Clemson game. Clemson scored 21 points in the 4th quarter of that game and Bama could only muster up 7. I could see the same thing happening this year in the playoffs. Hurts is a slight improvement over Blake Sims, but almost the same kind of player. Tua has the potential to be more of a gun-slinger like we saw with AJ Mcarron...
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Phil_Army]
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11/06/17 10:04 AM
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I would bet that Bama has more 3-and-out's than any other top-10 team this year. I like that Hurts stays calm but I'd also like to see some fire out of him when they come out and slop it up for 3 plays and then punt. We can win with Hurts, that's been proven. But the offense can be shut down significantly with him as the QB, that's what cost us the Clemson game. Clemson scored 21 points in the 4th quarter of that game and Bama could only muster up 7. I could see the same thing happening this year in the playoffs. Hurts is a slight improvement over Blake Sims, but almost the same kind of player. Tua has the potential to be more of a gun-slinger like we saw with AJ Mcarron... Then why did JK Scott only have 24 punts in first 8 games?
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/06/17 10:08 AM
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Phil_Army
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Because we were playing goofballs like Brett Bielema, Matt Luke, and Butch Jones. We punted 6 times against FSU and 8 times against LSU, the only 2 "decent" defenses we've faced...
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Phil_Army]
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11/06/17 10:16 AM
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I would bet that Bama has more 3-and-out's than any other top-10 team this year. I like that Hurts stays calm but I'd also like to see some fire out of him when they come out and slop it up for 3 plays and then punt. We can win with Hurts, that's been proven. But the offense can be shut down significantly with him as the QB, that's what cost us the Clemson game. Clemson scored 21 points in the 4th quarter of that game and Bama could only muster up 7. I could see the same thing happening this year in the playoffs. Hurts is a slight improvement over Blake Sims, but almost the same kind of player. Tua has the potential to be more of a gun-slinger like we saw with AJ Mcarron... Bama was 0 - 13 on 3rd down conversions in that second half. So was the lack of converting on 3rd down and not out scoring Clemson in the forth quarter because of Kiffin getting gone, Stark calling the plays, Hurts inability to make plays or DeShaun Watson making plays to little white boy receiver or Bo Scarbrough getting hurt that was on his way to a two hundred yard game? To many things to put that loss on Hurts.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: leroycnbucks]
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11/06/17 10:32 AM
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I would bet that Bama has more 3-and-out's than any other top-10 team this year. I like that Hurts stays calm but I'd also like to see some fire out of him when they come out and slop it up for 3 plays and then punt. We can win with Hurts, that's been proven. But the offense can be shut down significantly with him as the QB, that's what cost us the Clemson game. Clemson scored 21 points in the 4th quarter of that game and Bama could only muster up 7. I could see the same thing happening this year in the playoffs. Hurts is a slight improvement over Blake Sims, but almost the same kind of player. Tua has the potential to be more of a gun-slinger like we saw with AJ Mcarron... Bama was 0 - 13 on 3rd down conversions in that second half. So was the lack of converting on 3rd down and not out scoring Clemson in the forth quarter because of Kiffin getting gone, Stark calling the plays, Hurts inability to make plays or DeShaun Watson making plays to little white boy receiver or Bo Scarbrough getting hurt that was on his way to a two hundred yard game? To many things to put that loss on Hurts. All of the above; the NFL is(was) finding out what we know about Watson; he's pretty good
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/13/17 02:21 AM
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I've been critical of Hurts this year, but he saved that game for Bama. Some clutch plays by the Sophomore. Good job Jalen!
Interesting statistic:
"Hurts has played 559 snaps this season and committed only one turnover."
I think his complete coolness in the face of adversity positively effects the whole offense and the team.
Last edited by Irishguy; 11/13/17 02:22 AM.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/13/17 04:50 AM
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Phil_Army
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Hurts definitely won the game for us against the bulldogs
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: abolt300]
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11/18/17 03:54 AM
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Anyone notice that in the first half Jalen did not hardly run at all. Then when it was paramount in the 2nd half, he took off with it. When he's running the ball decisively, our offense is very hard to stop. I noticed that as well. I thought maybe the coaches wanted him in the pocket instead of taking those hits while running but who knows. He was definitely the difference maker.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/25/17 01:35 PM
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Phil_Army
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Our jackass OC relies on Hurts too much and it cost us the Iron Bowl. I’m ready for Tua to take over
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