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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/05/17 03:26 PM
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I know this is derailing the thread, but based on how Alabama plays (and wins), I am FAR more concerned about having four of our five best linebackers out for the season.
At this point I've decided I don't really know about Hurts vs Tua, but I DO know those backers being out is a cluster@#$# waiting to happen in upcoming games.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: ikillbux]
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11/05/17 03:31 PM
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I know this is derailing the thread, but based on how Alabama plays (and wins), I am FAR more concerned about having four of our five best linebackers out for the season.
At this point I've decided I don't really know about Hurts vs Tua, but I DO know those backers being out is a cluster@#$# waiting to happen in upcoming games. Scares the hell out of me as well, because Hurts will have to win some games with his arm over the next 4 weeks.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Southwood7]
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11/05/17 03:40 PM
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Why did Bama lose the Natty last year? Cause they didn’t trust Harris to get it done after Bo got hurt. Yep. And because Saban ran Kiffen off and Sark called a terrible game. Oh, Deshaun Watson was pretty good too I understand the criticism of Hurts down field passing but if y’all think Tua would have started and we win that football game last night I think your dead wrong. Garbage time after the outcome has been decided is not a true measure of a QB. There are plenty of QBs with NFL arm talent that lose a bunch of games in college. Hurts is one of only two QBs in FBS that has played at least 8 games and thrown less than two picks. He takes care of the football and if Tua could do it better he would be startIng. Our Defense and Jk scott held them to 10 points playing their tales off last night despite multiple 3 and outs...to be honest, I absolutely think Tua would have scored more that 10 points...
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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11/05/17 03:41 PM
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I know this is derailing the thread, but based on how Alabama plays (and wins), I am FAR more concerned about having four of our five best linebackers out for the season.
At this point I've decided I don't really know about Hurts vs Tua, but I DO know those backers being out is a cluster@#$# waiting to happen in upcoming games. Scares the hell out of me as well, because Hurts will have to win some games with his arm over the next 4 weeks. Yeah plus Minkah had the hammy as well as Jennings got dinged up as well...gotta stop losing these guys
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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11/05/17 04:31 PM
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Why did Bama win every game except the natty last year? Officiating, or the lack of against clempson.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/05/17 04:52 PM
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Y'all should call Saban Thursday night on Hey Coach and hash it out with him. Tell him the error of his ways, and that you're seeing what he's not seeing. Report back, please.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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11/05/17 05:09 PM
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I keep seeing people say Hurts had his best game as a passer last night. Here are the numbers.
11/24/183/1/0.
Pretty ugly numbers by most qb judging standards. But, Saban is the judge in this case, and the most important number above is the 0. Saban hates turnovers and he has never had a qb truly earn his trust. Hurts doesn't turn the ball over, and bama hasnt needed a passing game to win this year, yet. Receivers dropped 5 passes for 100 yds he should have been 16/24 for 283. He played great and did not have to take chances running the designed qb run but a few times.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/05/17 05:12 PM
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Why did Bama lose the Natty last year? Cause they didn’t trust Harris to get it done after Bo got hurt. Yep. And because Saban ran Kiffen off and Sark called a terrible game. Oh, Deshaun Watson was pretty good too I understand the criticism of Hurts down field passing but if y’all think Tua would have started and we win that football game last night I think your dead wrong. Garbage time after the outcome has been decided is not a true measure of a QB. There are plenty of QBs with NFL arm talent that lose a bunch of games in college. Hurts is one of only two QBs in FBS that has played at least 8 games and thrown less than two picks. He takes care of the football and if Tua could do it better he would be startIng. Our Defense and Jk scott held them to 10 points playing their tales off last night despite multiple 3 and outs...to be honest, I absolutely think Tua would have scored more that 10 points... Sure, he could have started the game and threw 4 TD passes. He also could have thrown 3 interceptions that led to LSU points and we lose the game. We will never know because Saban is starting the QB that gives his team the best chance to win the game
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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11/05/17 05:16 PM
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I keep seeing people say Hurts had his best game as a passer last night. Here are the numbers.
11/24/183/1/0.
Pretty ugly numbers by most qb judging standards. But, Saban is the judge in this case, and the most important number above is the 0. Saban hates turnovers and he has never had a qb truly earn his trust. Hurts doesn't turn the ball over, and bama hasnt needed a passing game to win this year, yet. Receivers dropped 5 passes for 100 yds he should have been 16/24 for 283. He played great and did not have to take chances running the designed qb run but a few times. He also air mailed a td or two to wide open receivers, so his numbers could have been even better only if. That's just a byproduct of Saban pounding ball security into his head though. He knows a missed td that can't be intercepted is better than an underthrown or on time pass that gives the receiver a chance. There's a reason why Saban has never put a qb in the NFL who ever started
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: hunterbuck]
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11/05/17 05:26 PM
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Y'all should call Saban Thursday night on Hey Coach and hash it out with him. Tell him the error of his ways, and that you're seeing what he's not seeing. Report back, please. I'm gonna tell him even though I haven't watched a Bama game in 3 weeks, that even I know Hurts sucks
If you’re a common sense person, you probably don’t feel you have a home in this world right now. If you’re a Christian, you know you were never meant to.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: timbercruiser]
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11/05/17 06:16 PM
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Hamilton has a broken kneecap. Damn.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/06/17 03:20 AM
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I think this is the issue with Hurts in reality...
Most people, and ALL media, are totally fascinated by 7-on-7 type offenses. That's why most of the Sports Center highlights are of Baker Mayfield/Oklahoma and Lamar Jackson/Louisville, and other video game offenses. If you watch Baker Mayfield he's throwing his arm off every game (and they're winning games with 50-49 scores, and then getting beat by Iowa State every other year). Bama just doesn't play that type offense. Crap, I don't think we'll ever have a QB stat line like "28 of 40, 385 yards, 5 TD, 2 int." Honestly, it's pretty astounding that Jalen had 24 attempts! I'm always shocked when Tua gets in the game and they throw so much.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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11/06/17 03:53 AM
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The main problem with the offense is that when Hurts is in, almost all the big plays are done by him. It totally negates the other 5 skill players on the field. When Tua is in, you have to defend the whole field because every skill player has the potential to make a big play because of how well he throws. I have a feeling that we will lose a big game this year because of Hurts, but I hope I'm wrong
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Phil_Army]
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11/06/17 04:23 AM
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The main problem with the offense is that when Hurts is in, almost all the big plays are done by him. It totally negates the other 5 skill players on the field. When Tua is in, you have to defend the whole field because every skill player has the potential to make a big play because of how well he throws. I have a feeling that we will lose a big game this year because of Hurts, but I hope I'm wrong Really good point, I like the way you said that. The offense lost the Clemson game last year specifically for that reason. The defense isn't on the field for 100 plays if we just convert even one or two more 3rd downs. Literally, if we convert ONE third down somewhere late in that game, it's #17.
We were on the edge of Eternia, when the power of Greyskull began to take hold.
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