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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: bmc77]
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10/29/17 12:07 PM
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If Tau played a good defense he would throw several pics. Hurts is the only starter on the team. I would figure TAU has to practice against a pretty good defense week end and week out. Yep...and he probably throws several picks in practice every week. We all see Tua's talent at spinning the ball. It jumps out at you. But, we see it in games only...after the first string guys have absolutely raped, brutalized, and demoralized the other teams' defenses. Saban sees it every day in practice. Saban is paid to win football games, and will play whoever gives Bama the best opportunity to win. We all see the frustration the receivers display when Jalen skips one to them. But, Jalen makes GOOD DECISIONS with the ball, and Tua probably just isn't there yet. Example of this? The pick 6 he threw against UT. Saban talked about it during the SEC Film Room on SEC Network. Said that in that situation, with a guy in the back of the end zone, you want to miss high to where either your guy gets it, or it's an overthrow. If the receiver had been at the front of the end zone, Saban said you want to throw low, where only your guy can get to it as well. Tua missed low to a guy in the back of the end zone, and threw a pick that was returned for a td. Saban knows he has a beast of a team. He also knows that mistakes will do more to lose a game than most anything else. He's playing the guy he has the most confidence in to not make those mistakes. I call bullsh*t on this, Jalen starts out of respect for the experience and game management he has shown.He SHOULD be the starter until he can't get it done.Alabana has yet to play a defense that can go toe to toe 4 qtrs.But it's on the way because in November the chit is gonna hit the fan.There will be a time perhaps even in the LSU game where Jalen has less than a 100 yards passing in the 2nd half and is just holding the ball. What will happen then?There are a half dozen 5 star receivers on this team and Ridley is the only one used by Jalen game in game out.The proof will be in the pudding,Alabama will need some down field passing against LSU,MSU, and damn sure will need it versus AUB and GA. You should send Saban a resume. You've obviously got it figured out better than he does. What's your peewee coaching record?
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: hunterbuck]
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10/29/17 12:31 PM
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If Tau played a good defense he would throw several pics. Hurts is the only starter on the team. I would figure TAU has to practice against a pretty good defense week end and week out. Yep...and he probably throws several picks in practice every week. We all see Tua's talent at spinning the ball. It jumps out at you. But, we see it in games only...after the first string guys have absolutely raped, brutalized, and demoralized the other teams' defenses. Saban sees it every day in practice. Saban is paid to win football games, and will play whoever gives Bama the best opportunity to win. We all see the frustration the receivers display when Jalen skips one to them. But, Jalen makes GOOD DECISIONS with the ball, and Tua probably just isn't there yet. Example of this? The pick 6 he threw against UT. Saban talked about it during the SEC Film Room on SEC Network. Said that in that situation, with a guy in the back of the end zone, you want to miss high to where either your guy gets it, or it's an overthrow. If the receiver had been at the front of the end zone, Saban said you want to throw low, where only your guy can get to it as well. Tua missed low to a guy in the back of the end zone, and threw a pick that was returned for a td. Saban knows he has a beast of a team. He also knows that mistakes will do more to lose a game than most anything else. He's playing the guy he has the most confidence in to not make those mistakes. I call bullsh*t on this, Jalen starts out of respect for the experience and game management he has shown.He SHOULD be the starter until he can't get it done.Alabana has yet to play a defense that can go toe to toe 4 qtrs.But it's on the way because in November the chit is gonna hit the fan.There will be a time perhaps even in the LSU game where Jalen has less than a 100 yards passing in the 2nd half and is just holding the ball. What will happen then?There are a half dozen 5 star receivers on this team and Ridley is the only one used by Jalen game in game out.The proof will be in the pudding,Alabama will need some down field passing against LSU,MSU, and damn sure will need it versus AUB and GA. You should send Saban a resume. You've obviously got it figured out better than he does. What's your peewee coaching record? I haven't said 1 thing about anything Saban has done.Just gave my opinion just like you.No need to be a smart ass.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: bmc77]
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10/29/17 12:40 PM
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Does Auburn have a ground or passing game? Does Georgia have anything but a ground game? Who has both that are effective? They both have a top notch defense.Y'all sleep on Auburn all you want to but let'em hit a deep ball to Hastings early and get the crowd in it,it'll be a chit storm for 3 hours.Y'all have a short memory.I don't think Ga's offense would be effective against Bama. How has that worked out for Auburn this year? Their offense is run left, run right, throw a deep ball, punt. Throw deep ball, run up the middle, run up the middle, punt.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: doekiller]
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10/29/17 01:20 PM
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Does Auburn have a ground or passing game? Does Georgia have anything but a ground game? Who has both that are effective? They both have a top notch defense.Y'all sleep on Auburn all you want to but let'em hit a deep ball to Hastings early and get the crowd in it,it'll be a chit storm for 3 hours.Y'all have a short memory.I don't think Ga's offense would be effective against Bama. How has that worked out for Auburn this year? Their offense is run left, run right, throw a deep ball, punt. Throw deep ball, run up the middle, run up the middle, punt. At times it has worked pretty well,at Clemson, at LSU are not losses to be ashamed of.The LSU game was a fluke 2nd half.If they execute the plays they have playmakers.I'm not that worried about AU's offense but their defense is plenty capable of rattling Hurts and making Bama play left handed and doing something out of the norm.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: bmc77]
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10/29/17 04:02 PM
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Does Auburn have a ground or passing game? Does Georgia have anything but a ground game? Who has both that are effective? They both have a top notch defense.Y'all sleep on Auburn all you want to but let'em hit a deep ball to Hastings early and get the crowd in it,it'll be a chit storm for 3 hours.Y'all have a short memory.I don't think Ga's offense would be effective against Bama. How has that worked out for Auburn this year? Their offense is run left, run right, throw a deep ball, punt. Throw deep ball, run up the middle, run up the middle, punt. At times it has worked pretty well,at Clemson, at LSU are not losses to be ashamed of.The LSU game was a fluke 2nd half.If they execute the plays they have playmakers.I'm not that worried about AU's offense but their defense is plenty capable of rattling Hurts and making Bama play left handed and doing something out of the norm. . Your right. Gus has those boys ready to play. Hope he gets an extension.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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10/29/17 04:14 PM
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If Tau played a good defense he would throw several pics. Hurts is the only starter on the team. And how do you know this? Because I watch him play during his time in games and he will throw a bunch of pics with where and when he throws at this point of his career. Not a bad thing he will learn from it but he is not ready to be a starter. He is getting some great reps and will be a good one soon
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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10/29/17 04:26 PM
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Isn't it nice that Bama has 2 good QBs this year? Could very well make a difference in the later part of the season this year...
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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10/29/17 04:36 PM
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May I add that any pick can be a pick 6...Just saying because there really isn't that much of a difference interception wise other than the points
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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10/29/17 05:08 PM
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May I add that any pick can be a pick 6...Just saying because there really isn't that much of a difference interception wise other than the points I assume you are referring to my video above. That is as bad of a pick as you can throw. The linebacker literally never moved and he hit him in the numbers. Being on the goal line with Alabama's running game makes it even worse. Saban doesn't like turnovers and Hurts doesn't turn it over
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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10/29/17 07:02 PM
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May I add that any pick can be a pick 6...Just saying because there really isn't that much of a difference interception wise other than the points I assume you are referring to my video above. That is as bad of a pick as you can throw. The linebacker literally never moved and he hit him in the numbers. Being on the goal line with Alabama's running game makes it even worse. Saban doesn't like turnovers and Hurts doesn't turn it over Yeah my b, I forgot to quote it...I agree it was a terrible pick and Saban def doesn't like turnovers, but they both have the same amount of interceptions this year I am pretty sure...also, ever notice how many times Jalen fumbles the ball? sometimes he is down, sometimes he isn't and it goes out of bounds...just putting out some more talking points is all
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: Gobble4me757]
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10/30/17 01:01 AM
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Yeah my b, I forgot to quote it...I agree it was a terrible pick and Saban def doesn't like turnovers, but they both have the same amount of interceptions this year I am pretty sure...also, ever notice how many times Jalen fumbles the ball? sometimes he is down, sometimes he isn't and it goes out of bounds...just putting out some more talking points is all
Hurts has 1 INT on 151 attempts, and 3 fumbles on 84 carries. Tua has 1 INT on 42 attempts, and 1 fumble on 12 carries. So turnover per touch is Hurts at 1.7% and Tua at 3.7%.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: crenshawco]
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10/30/17 02:24 AM
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Yeah my b, I forgot to quote it...I agree it was a terrible pick and Saban def doesn't like turnovers, but they both have the same amount of interceptions this year I am pretty sure...also, ever notice how many times Jalen fumbles the ball? sometimes he is down, sometimes he isn't and it goes out of bounds...just putting out some more talking points is all
Hurts has 1 INT on 151 attempts, and 3 fumbles on 84 carries. Tua has 1 INT on 42 attempts, and 1 fumble on 12 carries. So turnover per touch is Hurts at 1.7% and Tua at 3.7%. May be wrong; but I don't think Hurts has lost a fumble? Not sure about Tua.
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
[Re: crenshawco]
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10/30/17 03:19 AM
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Yeah my b, I forgot to quote it...I agree it was a terrible pick and Saban def doesn't like turnovers, but they both have the same amount of interceptions this year I am pretty sure...also, ever notice how many times Jalen fumbles the ball? sometimes he is down, sometimes he isn't and it goes out of bounds...just putting out some more talking points is all
Hurts has 1 INT on 151 attempts, and 3 fumbles on 84 carries. Tua has 1 INT on 42 attempts, and 1 fumble on 12 carries. So turnover per touch is Hurts at 1.7% and Tua at 3.7%. Good facts there...I think another stat worth looking at is the fact that Ridley has 42 catches while the next highest is Jeudy with 12 receptions...That is very troubling because we all saw vs A&M when Ridley goes out with Hurts in, the offense stalls/sucks because Hurts doesn't look for anyone else. Let me mention again, I am more talking about the battle for qb next year than start Tua over Hurts this year...If Tua keeps improving and impressing, he deserves a shot to start over Hurts if he earns it despite the experience factor. It would be a miracle if he doesn't transfer because Saban tends to always go with the more experienced qb...though we won't know till the time comes Lord willing!
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Re: Hurts vs Tua
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10/30/17 06:10 AM
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Hurts, will be there for the full 4yrs. Nobody is going to draft him if he leaves early. Unless something happens, Tua will transfer is my guess. He isn't bench warming/back-up talent
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