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#2254806 - 10/12/17 06:55 AM Jackson county deer tracking
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Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 3540
Loc: Pisgah, AL
I figured I'd be a copy cat and do like CNC is doing. I figured I'd try and keep my stories in a separate thread to keep his clean.

As alot of you know, the northern half of the state is suffering from options on a tracking dog. I think we have 2 that I'm aware of. I bought a dog almost 2 years ago, a mtn cur, from J Carter on here. I had all intentions on making her a tracking dog. Started working her on blood as soon as she came home. I ended up getting a divorce shortly after and didn't have time to work her. I missed last deer season working on a house and decided to start back training her when I was finished. So this summer I started back doing mock tracks and she picked right up where she left off and was doing excellent. Bow season opened in GA and I was able to collect some fresh supplies off some deer friends had killed. Started making her mock tracks as hard as I could imagine. Making loops, crossing dirt roads, etc. She just blew thru them. I felt like it was time to get her on the real thing and started advertising. I've read about every article and alot of books on tracking and have talked to a few other trackers getting advice. (Thanks CNC) I felt confident Spark would find a deer.

Fast forward to yesterday. As soon as I got home, I went to lay a mock track at a family members house. I let it age 4 hours and while I was on my way I got my first call. My boss had shot a doe in GA and the arrow was covered in blood but he couldn't find any blood on the ground. I told him I'd be on my way.

About an hour later we get to the hit site and I let Spark sniff around a minute. Boss told me the story. 2 deer came in the plot, he shot the biggest doe. When she hit the woods, he hears her run by his stand about 30 yards. He didn't see where the deer went in.

So, I tell Spark to find it. I worked her on lead the whole time because I dont have a tracking collar yet. She hits the woods and man is it ever thick. I mean a rabbit would need a chainsaw to get thru this stuff. And me being the novice expert I am, didn't think to wear my briar pants. So here I go, being drug thru the woods behind a dog in a t shirt and blue jeans with no gloves.

We go about 100 yards thru this mess and we've not found blood and by Sparks body language I felt like she wasn't on it. I decided to take her back to the hit site and start over. This time she hit the woods and went a different direction. We get about 30 yards in the woods and find blood. Boy she's on it now. I felt like I had a Clydesdale at the end of that leash being drug thru hell. We end up going about 150 yards and there's the deer! She gets about 5 steps from it, hair raised on her neck and she starts growling. Lol. I'm pumped up, the boss is going nuts. Spark found her first deer! Then we had to drag that heffer back thru that mess. On the way out, I had the idea to train a dragging dog to go along behind the tracking dog! Reckon that would work?

He had actually double lunged this deer but she didn't start bleeding for about 50 yards. It was so thick in there, there's no way he would have been able to find that deer. He had already given up.

When I got back to the truck, I felt like I'd sandpapered an alligators a$$ in a phone booth. I have got scratches and cuts all over me. I learned some valuable lessons from the first. I will wear my briar pants from now on and I will be getting a tracking collar.

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#2254831 - 10/12/17 07:27 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Posts: 7256
Loc: Macon Co
Welcome to tracking!! laugh

That made my morning. Yeah, you better go ahead and be prepared for “thick”…..that’s just about every track it seems like. If you don’t start out in thickness, then just give it a minute….you’re headed that way…..either that or a swamp. Briar clothes are a must. I like the soft leather gloves…..they give me more dexterity to work my GPS than the stiff ones. A forester’s cruising vest is also a valuable thing to get. You’ll want to get used to taking a bottle or two of water with you for the dog as well along with a tiny bowl. You can just cut the bottom of a water bottle off to make one. Some tracks are gonna take a while and the dog will do much better if you stop and give it a drink every now and then. They’ll eventually shut down if you don’t when its hot.

Keep the stories coming! thumbup
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#2254974 - 10/12/17 09:22 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Registered: 11/18/15
Posts: 958
Loc: Limestone County
Awesome! I will eventually get into tracking and really enjoy reading about it.

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#2255651 - 10/12/17 08:02 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Registered: 07/10/03
Posts: 121
Loc: Gadsden, AL
Congrats on the recovery?

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#2255706 - 10/12/17 08:35 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Congrats on number 1.
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#2255777 - 10/12/17 09:07 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Posts: 490
Loc: Salem, Lee county
Excellent job and excellent story.
I’ve been training my GSP for birds since we brought him home last September.
After his first season of dove hunting I think he has it down.
Now I’ve been doing a little bit of tracking training with him and he’s doing ok.
If he manages to find at least one lost deer then I consider it a success.
I can’t wait to try him out on the real thing.
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#2258153 - 10/14/17 07:27 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
bowtarist Offline
THE Octopus

Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 3540
Loc: Pisgah, AL
Recovery 2 is in the books. Sorry to come
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#2258194 - 10/14/17 07:54 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Registered: 12/02/12
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You need to buy a wicks suit asap
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#2258222 - 10/14/17 08:09 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
CNC Online   content
14 point

Registered: 06/21/12
Posts: 7256
Loc: Macon Co
Originally Posted By: bowtarist
Recovery 2 is in the books. Sorry to come



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#2258652 - 10/15/17 07:51 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Posts: 2092
Loc: what's left over of westover
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#2258873 - 10/15/17 11:19 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: mandeerpig]
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#2259131 - 10/15/17 03:52 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Awesome! thumbup

Looking forward to keeping up with Spark's adventures!
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#2259389 - 10/15/17 08:29 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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THE Octopus

Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 3540
Loc: Pisgah, AL
Alright guys. I've finally had a minute to type all this out. Yesterday evening, my uncle and I went to a spot that we'd scouted last weekend. I took Spark with me just in case one of us shot one, I could give her some practice. I let her lay around in the dog box while we hunted.

I got set up around 4. This spot is a little pinch point between cutover and had a couple white oaks dropping. The wind was brutal, as this spot is right on the brow of the mtn.

I wear contacts and my eyes got extremely dry. At one point, I thought I had caught movement and was straining to look and when I blinked, my left contact came out. I guess the wind blew it off my face cause I couldn't find it.

Well, now I'm blind in one eye. I can't see at all without lens. Shortly thereafter, 3 big does come feeding in. They came in on my left side and I didn't even know they were there until they were at 10 yards. They fed under my tree for the longest and I was able to get up and get ready. I picked out what looked to be the biggest one and got to full draw. I settled the pin and whack, I couldn't tell where I hit her exactly. It sounded like it was right in the boiler, but I can't see real good. She runs off like a bat outta hell and I have no clue where she went.

It was a few minutes before dark and I went ahead and got down. I walked to the hit site and the arrow was covered in blood. I thought then I had made an excellent shot. I gather my crap and walk back to the wheeler and wait for my uncle. I told him all about it and I went and got Spark while he started looking for blood.

I get back and he can't find any blood at all. I take Spark to where the deer was standing and she's on it. I have her on a nylon leash now, about 8ft long. She's dragging me along. We get out about 40 yards from the hit and I see a speck of blood. I tell my uncle to watch for blood as he's following. We make it about 100 yards and the deer finally opened up and bled in one spot about the size of a truck hood. I looked back to tell him here's a bunch of blood, and when I say it, this deer jumps up 2 steps from me and before I could think, Sparks on her. Jerked the leash outta my hand and is gone. She bayed the deer up about 80 yards away.

I told my uncle I was just gone get Spark and we'll come back in the morning cause I'm unsure about the hit. I start making my way over and I'm trying to call her off, but she aint coming. Deer takes off like a rocket again, Spark's right on her. She runs up the mtn this time about 50 yards and bays the deer again. I'm making my way over to her and she quits barking. I can hear her panting and when I get to where I can see her, she's standing on top of the deer chewing on its butt. She was DRT.

Then its all high fives and pics. Somehow, I shot that deer in the hip. I have no idea how that happened and the only thing I can think is, being nearly blind in my left eye and I shoot both eyes open. I don't know.

I don't know if we'd of found this deer without her. I can't say. I believe I could have tracked her to her first bed but when she busted outta there, I found no more blood. It was great practice for her either way. We're both novices and we both love it.
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#2259390 - 10/15/17 08:30 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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THE Octopus

Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 3540
Loc: Pisgah, AL
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#2259411 - 10/15/17 08:40 PM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Posts: 2432
Loc: Bham
Congrats on the kill and track.
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#2259767 - 10/16/17 07:32 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
CNC Online   content
14 point

Registered: 06/21/12
Posts: 7256
Loc: Macon Co
Man, you need to go ahead and get you an Alpha system. You'll love it. I bet it really motivated the dog to get on one like that. She’ll be pumped up on the next one now that she knows that some of them are alive. I had one tracker tell me one time that he thought his dog was a little disappointed when they found them and they were already dead. All dogs act a little different with live deer. Some of them want to run in and grab the deer and get really aggressive with it. Those dogs usually get injured or killed eventually. Them dang bucks don’t play. You can use the Alpha collar to help correct this issue and keep your dog off of them.


Edited by CNC (10/16/17 07:32 AM)
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#2259770 - 10/16/17 07:35 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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THE Octopus

Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 3540
Loc: Pisgah, AL
I'm gone get one. 700 dollars ain't easy to come by to.
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#2259787 - 10/16/17 07:55 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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14 point

Registered: 06/21/12
Posts: 7256
Loc: Macon Co
Originally Posted By: bowtarist
I'm gone get one. 700 dollars ain't easy to come by to.


Sounds like it’s time to start accepting “tips” ($$$$)…… grin

In all seriousness though, I hear you…..it adds up quick when you really start getting into tracking. It’s more expensive to track than it is to hunt.
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#2259879 - 10/16/17 09:14 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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THE Octopus

Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 3540
Loc: Pisgah, AL
I can see where it is more expensive. Especially driving a truck like mine that gets 15 mpg.
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#2260068 - 10/16/17 11:50 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Registered: 06/21/12
Posts: 7256
Loc: Macon Co
Yep, I’m right there with you. I drive an older model Chevy that gets about 17……When the rut hits, that when things really get crazy. You’ll be running up and down every back road in north Alabama. Last year I drove about 40-50 miles to track a deer for some folks one morning and literally as I walked back in my door from that track….another hunter called that wasn’t even 5 miles from the first one. I loaded back up and here we went again.


Edited by CNC (10/16/17 11:50 AM)
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#2266185 - 10/22/17 08:45 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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THE Octopus

Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 3540
Loc: Pisgah, AL
I got a call to track yesterday around 1. Hunter said he shot a good buck at 15 yards broadside. Deer ran 20 yards and stopped he then turned and walked off. Hunter said he could see blood and stringy stuff running from the exit wound. I told him I'd be on my way. Deer was shot at 8am and I didn't get there til 2. They lost blood about 60 yards from the hit sight. I started at the arrow and Spark took off right down the trail. She went on past last blood and she kept working her way pulling hard and I felt she was on the deer. She took us to a fence line and wanted to go in the open field and I just didn't see that buck doing that and I felt like we needed to go back to the hit site and try again. On the way back to the hit site, we happened up on blood that confirmed the deer had doubled back. I led spark to the hit site and off we go again. Same route back to the open field. I know for sure this deer doubled back and she's not showing it. By this time, she was spent. Breathing hard and very tired. I continued to help the hunter look for the deer with no luck.

He had called another tracker earlier in the day and he was hung up. I told him to call a more experienced dog bc I believed the deer was dead. I was wanting to be there when the other dog showed just to see where mine went wrong but it was around midnight when they started and I'd been up since 3 am.

I woke up this morning with pics of the deer. I don't know the story yet, but I'll relay it when I know.

Kind of embarrassing on my end but I know she's still young and inexperienced.

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#2266235 - 10/22/17 09:43 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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THE Octopus

Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 3540
Loc: Pisgah, AL
Well, I just got the update. Looks like I should have trusted my dog a little better. The deer went up a very steep pond dam and died in the pond. I didn't know it was a pond and when Spark was wanting to go up it, I called her off.
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#2266248 - 10/22/17 10:05 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Registered: 07/14/11
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Loc: Boxes Cove
Good ending. Keep the stories coming.

I've been on a couple where the handler second guessed the dog , however , the dog was right all along.
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#2266262 - 10/22/17 10:28 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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Registered: 06/21/12
Posts: 7256
Loc: Macon Co
It’s completely normal…..It’s almost like a rite of passage to have to experience these tracks. Every tracker has done it. It sucks too because it makes you feel embarrassed as hell. Eventually the dog will get better and you’ll get better at reading the dog. It’s a team game. Brush that one off and get on the next one. thumbup


Edited by CNC (10/22/17 10:28 AM)
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#2266268 - 10/22/17 10:37 AM Re: Jackson county deer tracking [Re: bowtarist]
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THE Octopus

Registered: 08/01/08
Posts: 3540
Loc: Pisgah, AL
Thanks guys. I learned alot yesterday. I'm glad that I was able to find out the info on the ending.
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