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Re: Jackson county deer tracking
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10/26/17 10:39 AM
10/26/17 10:39 AM
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Good job! Great looking cur dog.
Once she figures out what this is all about, she will be unstoppable. At least one of those dogs had the best nose of any I've ever seen or heard of.
Whoever is happy will make others happy too. Anne Frank
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Re: Jackson county deer tracking
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#2271963
10/27/17 02:13 AM
10/27/17 02:13 AM
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Dang, that sucks. She'll eventually learn to leave those other deer alone though when those hot trails don't lead to a prize at the end. It's tough when you first start. It can be hard to tell if their tracking the hurt deer or just a random one.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Jackson county deer tracking
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10/31/17 07:50 AM
10/31/17 07:50 AM
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Been on 4 tracks in 2 days. Will update as soon as I have more time. Love these threads.
Ya'll are just overthinking it now
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Re: Jackson county deer tracking
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10/31/17 04:04 PM
10/31/17 04:04 PM
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Alright fellers. Time for an update. I went on 2 tracks Sunday and 2 yesterday evening. First track was Sunday morning. The hunter which is one of my most hated friends, had shot a buck Saturday afternoon. He knew right away it was a gut shot and backed out. He went back in Sunday morning and lost the deer about 200 yards away in a thicket. I took both dogs because my female is in heat and is acting 6 ways of crazy. We held her back while I went on with Haggard. It was very obvious he is still to young so we brought Spark in. We ended up just going to the thicket where he had lost blood. Once in there, its really thick. She's not hitting on anything. I can hear my midget friend whistle to have me come to him. I had let Spark off leash to be able to work the wind a little. I got to him and it was obvious a deer had layed there a while. I tried calling Spark over but she wouldn't come. She ended up being down wind of the deer and was going nuts trying to figure out where it was coming from. The buck was probably 10 yards away from the bed. Congrats midget, I know your reading this.
Sunday evening, I get a call from a man in Paint Rock. His son had stuck a doe and the arrow was still in her. It was his son's first bowkill. I put Spark on the deer 7 hours after the shot. I let her backtrack it all the way to the hit site and started from there. We had parked down the mtn from there. So we head back down following blood and we get to where the guys had lost blood and she is still going strong. Dad was back behind a ways looking for blood as we were going. We went about 200 yards and found no blood. By her body language I believed she wasn't on the deer. So I restart. She takes the same exact path but takes a left about 100 yards into it. I let her work for another 100 or so yards and come up with nothing. So I restart yet again. Same story, she goes the same way down but gets out so far and just seems to lose it. At this point its nearly dark and i have no light. We started the search about 3.5 hours earlier. I tell Dad that I believe he needs to call a more experienced dog. I had told him from the start that mine were young and there was a good chance they wouldn't make the recovery. There seemed to be a lack of trackers Sunday and I was the only one available. The only other one wouldn't take the track later that night because I had been in there already. I really felt horrible leaving without finding the young man's deer. It's very discouraging.
Up next is yesterday's track. Got the call midday that the hunter had shot a buck and misjudged the distance. He had no blood at the hit site and just backed out to find a dog. He tells me that the deer bolted about 20 yards, stopped and walked off twitching its tail. So we go after him about 6 hours after the shot. He takes me to the hit site and Spark is on it. She tracks exactly where he said the buck walked off. I found one speck of blood about the size of a pencil eraser. There was white hair at the hit site and arrow had some clear fluid on it with no color or smell. I can see in the mud as Sparks tracking a large set of tracks and by her body language I feel like she's on the deer, but we're not finding anything. I restart and she does the exact same thing, goes to a creek. We did this 3 times and she follows the same trail each time. I believe that the deer was shot low and would live. But the way the deer acted is puzzling me. It sounds like a classic gut shot minus the hunching up. But there was only one speck of blood.
I left there and went on up the road. Hunter had shot a buck at 8:40. 18 yards broadside with a crossbow. He caught the off shoulder and they didn't give it any time before tracking. They busted the deer out of its bed and it probably ran 400 yards thru a semi grown up sage field. It made its way into another field which was slammed with cuckaburrs. They seen it trying to get across this field and it was having a hard time walking. So they went in after it, thinking it would be dead in there. They grid search it with no luck. I got there about 30 minutes before dark and we go to last blood and start working our way back towards where they last seen the deer. We end up going around this field hoping Spark will pick up on where it exited at least all while working the downwind side of it. I ended up zig zagging thru this field of cuckaburrs that's at times up to my chest. She ends up hitting a faint trail thru it and we find blood. Its off to the races. She's digging in and on the track. We come out of the field and cross a field road and hit a small strip of woods that is right next to the backwater. She tracked it all the way to the water and I pulled her off. We went 100 or so yards in both directions just to make sure and found nothing else. There was another section of land about 60 yards across the water the we assumed the deer went to. The hunter decided to call it and said he'd go back in this morning to see if it was there. He updated me today and did not find where the deer came out of the water. Up to that point the deer had been bleeding pretty good for just an entrance wound. We both believe the deer tried swimming across and drowned and sank.
Some of the things I've learned this week are, that my dog needs alot of work on older lines. I feel so embarrassed when she can't find a deer that I believe is down and dead. I figure it goes with the territory.
On a positive note, my collar should be arriving this Saturday. I will be headed out for Ohio for a hunt, so I will be unavailable. When I get back, she best tie her shoe's tight cause we got a lot to work on.
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Re: Jackson county deer tracking
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11/03/17 04:45 AM
11/03/17 04:45 AM
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On a positive note, my collar should be arriving this Saturday. When I get back, she best tie her shoe's tight cause we got a lot to work on. Make sure you don’t get the collar out and start shocking the dog trying to make it do what you want it to. It’ll create a negative association with the collar and the dog will not want anything to do with it. Forget it even has a shock function for several weeks, maybe more. First time you put the collar on the dog just take it for a walk and do something fun. It’s new to the dog and you want to have a positive experience associated with it. Next begin working on the tone function. That’s the far right button that makes the collar beep. This is how you’ll control the dog on a track and bring her back to you. The way I taught my dogs this command was with training treats. I started by simply taking them for a walk and periodically beeping the collar and giving them a treat. It’ s like Pavlov’s bell……beep the collar give the dog a treat. It won’t take them long to figure this out. Once they do then let them wander off from you 40 yards or so and then beep the collar accompanied by a “Come”……You can also put them on a stay command…..back off 40-50 yards and then beep the collar along with a “Come” command……just practice for 20 minutes or so in the afternoons or every couple days. After a few days, take the treats out of the equation and replace it with praise when she comes to you….good girl!.....and then eventually take the “Come” command out of the equation and simply beep the collar to have them come to you. Practice this for a couple weeks until the dog has it down…..
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Re: Jackson county deer tracking
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11/19/17 02:24 PM
11/19/17 02:24 PM
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This collar is the bomb. . Ain’t it though……It’s a helluva lot better than holding on to a rope. It completely changed tracking for me.
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Jackson county deer tracking
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11/28/17 03:46 AM
11/28/17 03:46 AM
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Got a call tonight down the road from my house. Got there 2 hours after the shot. Hunter had made roughly a 100 yard shot on a buck. He had found a couple spots of blood then nothing. I turned Spark out and she immediately was on the deer. Tracked it about 200 yards and ended up getting it up. She ran it out to 550 and the hunter said he didn't have permission to go over there so I toned Spark back. She finally makes it back to me and I can see her right eye is red. Its milky red looking but no blood. I called the vet and he gave me instructions on how to treat and if it's not better in the morning we'll be headed to the vet. How is the eye doing? Everything ok?
We dont rent pigs
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