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Re: IF... Gus is canned
[Re: bill]
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09/19/17 02:33 AM
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Yep. Just wishful thinking bama fans wanting AU to aim low. Auburn is a top 10 job. Period. Silly auburn fans. Y'all know this hire will be screwed up too. A few years ago all you guys were delusional and expected to hire a big name. Auburn hired Chizik who had a 5-19 record at Iowa State. To give a little credit he did win auburns only natty in my lifetime. Here's the funny part. He was fired for losing. Auburn hired a guy with a 5-19 record and fired him for losing.
This will be a fun season on Aldeer. I agree. AU will only be able to hire an unproven coach who may or may not be the next Dabo Sweeney. No way AU attracts a proven winner. Except maybe Les Miles, but that probably wouldn't happen. Given all the negative press that AU has dealt with lately, firing Gus is not in their best interests right now. That's the same situation Alabama was in and the same thing Auburn fans were saying about that job. It was so bad Mike Riley turned it down. With enough money and complete control promised they got who they wanted. If Auburn got rid of their problems and opened up the check book they could attract a good coach. The problem I see is that there isn't a big name available. Regardless of what Timbercruiser says every time Auburn is searching for a coach of any kind, money has never been an issue.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
[Re: burbank]
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09/19/17 02:40 AM
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Yep. Just wishful thinking bama fans wanting AU to aim low.
Auburn is a top 10 job. Period.
Period? Which one is out for auburn to be in? There can only be 10. (no order) Florida State Georgia Michigan Ohio State Alabama Texas USC LSU Florida I don't even know that they are in next 5. Clemson Notre Dame Texas A&M Oregon Oklahoma Auburn would be in the next 5.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
[Re: burbank]
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09/19/17 02:43 AM
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Auburn is a top 10 job. Period.
Quite the imagination.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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09/19/17 03:04 AM
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Silly auburn fans. Y'all know this hire will be screwed up too. A few years ago all you guys were delusional and expected to hire a big name. Auburn hired Chizik who had a 5-19 record at Iowa State. To give a little credit he did win auburns only natty in my lifetime. Here's the funny part. He was fired for losing. Auburn hired a guy with a 5-19 record and fired him for losing.
This will be a fun season on Aldeer. I agree. AU will only be able to hire an unproven coach who may or may not be the next Dabo Sweeney. No way AU attracts a proven winner. Except maybe Les Miles, but that probably wouldn't happen. Given all the negative press that AU has dealt with lately, firing Gus is not in their best interests right now. Blinded by the Bama light.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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09/19/17 03:15 AM
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Nobody has mentioned Clay Helton. USC HC. QB developer. Makes around $4 mil. Played at Auburn. HAS WINNING RECORD AS A HC. Football family. (son of Kim Helton) Has ties all over the country for recruiting. Even HS ties at Stephensville, Tx. Worth a look.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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Nobody has mentioned Clay Helton. USC HC. QB developer. Makes around $4 mil. Played at Auburn. HAS WINNING RECORD AS A HC. Football family. (son of Kim Helton) Has ties all over the country for recruiting. Even HS ties at Stephensville, Tx. Worth a look. (USC is a better job than Auburn. Its amazing that has to be said out loud)
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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09/19/17 03:44 AM
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Nobody has mentioned Clay Helton. USC HC. QB developer. Makes around $4 mil. Played at Auburn. HAS WINNING RECORD AS A HC. Football family. (son of Kim Helton) Has ties all over the country for recruiting. Even HS ties at Stephensville, Tx. Worth a look. (USC is a better job than Auburn. Its amazing that has to be said out loud) He's a southern boy from Gainesville Florida. Plus he attended AU and Houston. Probably would take the job to get back on the right side of the country.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
[Re: snakebit]
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09/19/17 03:44 AM
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Is amazing that someone (jb) thinks that. Wearing a flack jacket to practice? Cost of living. Southern boy in that town. Pat Haden. Lives in the minds of "has beens." Btw, I did say "worth a look." And don't know condition of facilities now, but they were bad at one time. Jb, you aren't in touch with football, are you? (Don't even believe I'm saying that out loud)
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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Nobody has mentioned Clay Helton. USC HC. QB developer. Makes around $4 mil. Played at Auburn. HAS WINNING RECORD AS A HC. Football family. (son of Kim Helton) Has ties all over the country for recruiting. Even HS ties at Stephensville, Tx. Worth a look. (USC is a better job than Auburn. Its amazing that has to be said out loud) In many coaches eyes "better" is relative to $$$$$. No doubt USC has more tradition and a better recruiting base but $4mil in Cali won't go nearly as far as it will in the South. He'll have an easier time off it at USC and there are a lot of coaches that wouldn't want the challenge of going head to head with Saban every year, I'm sure. Auburn is top 15 all time in wins and has overpaid every football coach they've had since Dye so I'm sure they'd throw the checkbook at a really good coach if they wanted to take on that challenge. Auburn wants to win I just don't think their administration knows the formula to do it at a high level , consistently.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
[Re: snakebit]
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09/19/17 03:51 AM
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Well said Leroy and Bill.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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09/19/17 03:53 AM
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Auburn is a better job than UGA, ND,and Oregon. When has UGA done anything even in a pathetically weak east? ND has recruiting issues (standards), and Oregon (give me a break). It was better than Clemson pre Dabo, and I would argue better than A&M from a history perspective. That being said, A&M has unlimited resources and is the better job now. Don't believe me? Malzhan has recruited inside the top 10 for the last 5 years. And this is WITH SABAN in the same state knocking out number classes. A capable coach could come here and win BIGLY! Yep. Just wishful thinking bama fans wanting AU to aim low.
Auburn is a top 10 job. Period.
Period? Which one is out for auburn to be in? There can only be 10. (no order) Florida State Georgia- Michigan- Ohio State Alabama Texas USC LSU Florida I don't even know that they are in next 5. Clemson Notre Dame Texas A&M Oregon Oklahoma Auburn would be in the next 5.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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09/19/17 03:54 AM
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Is amazing that someone (jb) thinks that. Wearing a flack jacket to practice? Cost of living. Southern boy in that town. Pat Haden. Lives in the minds of "has beens." Btw, I did say "worth a look." And don't know condition of facilities now, but they were bad at one time. Jb, you aren't in touch with football, are you? (Don't even believe I'm saying that out loud) Definitely worth a look. You're right, I know nothing
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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09/19/17 03:56 AM
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Is amazing that someone (jb) thinks that. Wearing a flack jacket to practice? Cost of living. Southern boy in that town. Pat Haden. Lives in the minds of "has beens." Btw, I did say "worth a look." And don't know condition of facilities now, but they were bad at one time. Jb, you aren't in touch with football, are you? (Don't even believe I'm saying that out loud) Haden retired from USC last year. Maybe he's their Pat Dye and still runs things behind the scenes though...I don't know. But, he is the one who gave the job to Helton, so I'm not sure Helton sees Pat Haden as the "problem" that many did/do...and I was one of those people. That said, the biggest thing I see missing from your list is "opportunity to succeed"...which is much greater at USC than it is at Auburn RIGHT NOW.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
[Re: burbank]
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09/19/17 03:57 AM
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Auburn is a better job than UGA, ND,and Oregon. When has UGA done anything even in a pathetically weak east? ND has recruiting issues (standards), and Oregon (give me a break). It was better than Clemson pre Dabo, and I would argue better than A&M from a history perspective. That being said, A&M has unlimited resources and is the better job now. Don't believe me? Malzhan has recruited inside the top 10 for the last 5 years. And this is WITH SABAN in the same state knocking out number classes. A capable coach could come here and win BIGLY! Yep. Just wishful thinking bama fans wanting AU to aim low.
Auburn is a top 10 job. Period.
Period? Which one is out for auburn to be in? There can only be 10. (no order) Florida State Georgia- Michigan- Ohio State Alabama Texas USC LSU Florida I don't even know that they are in next 5. Clemson Notre Dame Texas A&M Oregon Oklahoma Auburn would be in the next 5. Agree to disagree on Georgia and Oregon. Both are better jobs IMO. And I'm not talking historical perspective, i'm talking right now quality of the job. Georgia's recruiting base and sole ownership of the state alone is invaluable (IMO again), same as LSU Notre Dame I'll agree isn't what it once was
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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09/19/17 04:19 AM
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I think the PAC-12 is 2-0 vs SEC west teams. I dont see the SEC as harder to succeed outside of having to play bama. Is amazing that someone (jb) thinks that. Wearing a flack jacket to practice? Cost of living. Southern boy in that town. Pat Haden. Lives in the minds of "has beens." Btw, I did say "worth a look." And don't know condition of facilities now, but they were bad at one time. Jb, you aren't in touch with football, are you? (Don't even believe I'm saying that out loud) Haden retired from USC last year. Maybe he's their Pat Dye and still runs things behind the scenes though...I don't know. But, he is the one who gave the job to Helton, so I'm not sure Helton sees Pat Haden as the "problem" that many did/do...and I was one of those people. That said, the biggest thing I see missing from your list is "opportunity to succeed"...which is much greater at USC than it is at Auburn RIGHT NOW.
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Re: IF... Gus is canned
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09/19/17 04:30 AM
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Yep. LOTS of rumors about Jacobs being canned very soon. I think it would be after the season before anything is done to Gus, if then. I think Jacobs time is getting shorter tho.
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