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Re: The Ark?
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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09/19/17 07:19 AM
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Why would there even be a debate whether or not dinosaurs were on the ark because there is nothing definitive in scripture concerning the animals on there. Didn't Marco Polo write about seeing large flying reptiles ?? I don't know about Marco Polo, but many a mariner did write about seeing Mermaids. Dinosaurs predated man by millions of years. No overlap. You're right, it's not really a debate. You do know there are cave drawings depicting dinosaur like animals and there is a dry riverbed in (Texas) i think ...it has fossilized human and dinosaur tracks in it? There is zero evidence in the fossil record of dinosaur and man existing at the same time. The gap is quite astounding. This is wrong. Here's just a few examples http://www.icr.org/men-dinosaurs/http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/dinoscoexist.html No, my statement is correct. Ask any geologist/archaeologist that is a well respected member of the scientific community. Christian or not, they will all agree that there's zero scientific evidence of man and dinosaur coexisting. Yep. I was in archeology school at UA, and none of my professors ever mentioned that they coexisted.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: deadeye48]
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09/19/17 07:24 AM
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The first flood occurred because of lucifers rebellion. When he tried to exalt his throne above the throne of God. God destroyed the kingdom lucifer was ruling over ..the heavens and earth.. hence the Re creation of both And where the heck are you getting this from? The first flood I mean.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: deadeye48]
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09/19/17 07:25 AM
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Where do you see that they were told to "replenish"?
My ESV says "be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" Wow really?? The KJV is all I study. It was taken from the Septuagint and from the Hebrew texts. Don't misunderstand that with any language translation there will be transliteration and the further you get from the original the worse that gets So were there humans as we know them walking around prior to Adam and Eve? They perished in the first flood?
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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09/19/17 07:27 AM
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The first flood occurred because of lucifers rebellion. When he tried to exalt his throne above the throne of God. God destroyed the kingdom lucifer was ruling over ..the heavens and earth.. hence the Re creation of both And where the heck are you getting this from? The first flood I mean. I think the "re" prefix is what this is hinging on
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: AUstan23]
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09/19/17 07:33 AM
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The first flood occurred because of lucifers rebellion. When he tried to exalt his throne above the throne of God. God destroyed the kingdom lucifer was ruling over ..the heavens and earth.. hence the Re creation of both And where the heck are you getting this from? The first flood I mean. I think the "re" prefix is what this is hinging on The Bible makes no mention of pre-adamite creatures. None. Zero. Zilch. I just don't understand how you can make up hundreds of thousands of years of people with there being no proof for it.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 07:36 AM
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Strong’s Definitions
מָלֵא mâlêʼ, maw-lay'; or מָלָא mâlâʼ; (Esther 7:5), a primitive root; to fill or (intransitively) be full of, in a wide application (literally and figuratively):—accomplish, confirm, consecrate, be at an end, be expired, be fenced, fill, fulfil, (be, become, × draw, give in, go) full(-ly, -ly set, tale), (over-) flow, fulness, furnish, gather (selves, together), presume, replenish, satisfy, set, space, take a (hand-) full, have wholly.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 07:52 AM
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It doesn't?? Who is Lucifer?
Again I ask questions with no answer coming from you guys.
The scripture is vague on this subject just like it is on dinosaurs but that doesn't make them disappear because someone refuses to believe in them
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: deadeye48]
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09/19/17 07:55 AM
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It doesn't?? Who is Lucifer?
Again I ask questions with no answer coming from you guys.
The scripture is vague on this subject just like it is on dinosaurs but that doesn't make them disappear because someone refuses to believe in them He was a cherub, aka an angel.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: deadeye48]
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09/19/17 07:55 AM
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Where do you see that they were told to "replenish"?
My ESV says "be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" Wow really?? The KJV is all I study. It was taken from the Septuagint and from the Hebrew texts. Don't misunderstand that with any language translation there will be transliteration and the further you get from the original the worse that gets KJV and ESV are both word-for-word translations from the original texts, neither of which even remotely kinda sorta hint at any existence whatsoever prior to Adam. Any notion of that is fully extra-biblical. I suspect we may be confusing the similar commands from the Lord in Genesis 1 (to Adam)and then again in Genesis 9 (to Noah and his family after the flood). Without writing a book, the whole "first Adam and last Adam" terminology also refutes it.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: ikillbux]
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09/19/17 07:57 AM
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Where do you see that they were told to "replenish"?
My ESV says "be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth" Wow really?? The KJV is all I study. It was taken from the Septuagint and from the Hebrew texts. Don't misunderstand that with any language translation there will be transliteration and the further you get from the original the worse that gets KJV and ESV are both word-for-word translations from the original texts, neither of which even remotely kinda sorta hint at any existence whatsoever prior to Adam. Any notion of that is fully extra-biblical. I suspect we may be confusing the similar commands from the Lord in Genesis 1 (to Adam)and then again in Genesis 9 (to Noah and his family after the flood). Without writing a book, the whole "first Adam and last Adam" terminology also refutes it. Genesis 9 crossed my mind too.
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: deadeye48]
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09/19/17 08:01 AM
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It doesn't?? Who is Lucifer?
Again I ask questions with no answer coming from you guys.
The scripture is vague on this subject just like it is on dinosaurs but that doesn't make them disappear because someone refuses to believe in them If there were people walking around prior to Adam and Eve and those people were killed off because of Lucifer (an angel) committing to sin then that seems confusing considering Adam and Eve were supposed to be man's original sin. Under your theory God essentially watches the same thing happen twice once Noah comes along.
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 08:04 AM
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And lucifer is ruling over the earth again because man gave over his authority in the garden
When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 08:07 AM
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I answered who lucifer was, a fallen angel (not only any angel, but one of the archangels, a cherub) who was cast down to earth after he got too big for his pants
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: westflgator]
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09/19/17 08:15 AM
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Why would there even be a debate whether or not dinosaurs were on the ark because there is nothing definitive in scripture concerning the animals on there. Didn't Marco Polo write about seeing large flying reptiles ?? I don't know about Marco Polo, but many a mariner did write about seeing Mermaids. Dinosaurs predated man by millions of years. No overlap. You're right, it's not really a debate. You do know there are cave drawings depicting dinosaur like animals and there is a dry riverbed in (Texas) i think ...it has fossilized human and dinosaur tracks in it? There are also human and dinosaur fossils in the same fossil beds found relatively close together. The whole argument of evolutionists is that different strata mean different time periods. There is evidence all over the world to debunk that but it's still taught to our kids regardless. An example would be fossilized trees going through multiple layers of strata (supposed millions of years worth) upside down with the roots facing upward. These have been found in multiple places around the world but you see a picture of one in a science book because it doesn't fit their agenda. Link? We have a video series on creation vs. evolution and the scientific evidence that supports creation. I don't have a link to it, but in the series, he does source all of the info he puts forth. I will try and watch them again and write down all his main sources. The trees are fairly common and there are pics of them that can probably be found and a simple search. Here's a link. And yes I know this guy got convicted of tax evasion and it definitely hurt his ministry. However, he still puts forth very solid evidence for creation and for a worldwide flood. He also holds his own very well with the evolutionist that I've seen him debate. I would say he won all of the debates that I've watched (videos not in person). The guys name is Ken Hovine and he is a scientist. I went to one of his seminars years ago and thought it was amazing. He really changed a lot of my thoughts on creationism and used good evidence to prove his points.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 08:27 AM
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I wish hunting season would hurry up and get here
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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09/19/17 08:30 AM
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I'm 51 years old. I've been in church since I can remember. Have read and heard a lot. Not as much as some but I tried to pay attention.
NEVER have heard of a "pre-earth" existing before Genesis 1:1, ever. Ever. Never have heard any of the pastors I've listened to say anything remotely close to that. Ever.
The things people think and believe. Whew.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: perchjerker]
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I tend to like these discussions and love reading everyone's views on this. Ill ask this question since it has been asked to me before and Im no scholar so ill see what yalls opinions are.
When cain killed able, who did he fear would kill him. In the bible he clearly references "the others." So the Lord placed a mark on him. If you go onto the next timeline of births it leads to some questions.
I had a person try and tell me one time kind of like it is being mentioned here. That their were other people and that adam and eve were the "first jews" created.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: 87dixieboy]
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I tend to like these discussions and love reading everyone's views on this. Ill ask this question since it has been asked to me before and Im no scholar so ill see what yalls opinions are.
When cain killed able, who did he fear would kill him. In the bible he clearly references "the others." So the Lord placed a mark on him. If you go onto the next timeline of births it leads to some questions.
I had a person try and tell me one time kind of like it is being mentioned here. That their were other people and that adam and eve were the "first jews" created. May have been like "the others" from the show Lost
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: 87dixieboy]
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I tend to like these discussions and love reading everyone's views on this. Ill ask this question since it has been asked to me before and Im no scholar so ill see what yalls opinions are.
When cain killed able, who did he fear would kill him. In the bible he clearly references "the others." So the Lord placed a mark on him. If you go onto the next timeline of births it leads to some questions.
I had a person try and tell me one time kind of like it is being mentioned here. That their were other people and that adam and eve were the "first jews" created. He could have just meant the others as in the rest of his family. When Abel was murdered, Cain could have been a hundred or two hundred years old. If he was a few hundred years old, that's a good amount of time for his siblings and kids to have a considerable amount of offspring. There's no other reference in the Bible that would hint at other humans being in existence that didn't come from Adam and Eve.
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Re: The Ark?
[Re: SouthBamaSlayer]
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09/19/17 09:27 AM
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I tend to like these discussions and love reading everyone's views on this. Ill ask this question since it has been asked to me before and Im no scholar so ill see what yalls opinions are.
When cain killed able, who did he fear would kill him. In the bible he clearly references "the others." So the Lord placed a mark on him. If you go onto the next timeline of births it leads to some questions.
I had a person try and tell me one time kind of like it is being mentioned here. That their were other people and that adam and eve were the "first jews" created. He could have just meant the others as in the rest of his family. When Abel was murdered, Cain could have been a hundred or two hundred years old. If he was a few hundred years old, that's a good amount of time for his siblings and kids to have a considerable amount of offspring. There's no other reference in the Bible that would hint at other humans being in existence that didn't come from Adam and Eve. So where did Cain's wife come from?
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