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Traditional arrow weight
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09/17/17 05:06 AM
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I know the general rule is 10gr per lb. but I see some guys wanting to shoot 12 to 15. what are your thoughts on arrow weight when it come to traditional archery equipment? I have some 500 and 400 heavy hunters but they are close to 650 to 700gr depending on the insert used with 125gr points. I am shooting a 45lb bow, I am currently either shooting gt xt @450grs or Easton xx75 @ 510 grains . I am shooting a 45/47lb bow @ my draw
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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09/17/17 06:18 AM
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usually the problem with carbons is getting enough arrow weight to get to 10gpp. I shoot 570gr arras out of a 52# recurve and a 57# R/D longbow.
But I had to add 100gr brass inserts and 200gr heads t get to 570 gr. FOC is high, unmeasured, and they fly like darts bareshaft.
don't see any need for 15gpp for deer hunting though.
the other prob with carbons is getting the spine correct for yer bow, usually requiring a longer arra with heavier point weight. I'd say a 400 spine is too stiff for any 45/47# recurve.
you can reduce the stiffness by adding length or heavier point weight.I draw 27 1/2" but my arras are 30" long to reduce stiffness, using GT 35/55s.
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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The heavy hunters are just that, I have them in the 400 and 500 spine they are close in total weight, with the 100gr insert , 125 point , full length 32" they are coming in at 684gr according to my scale, I bought them when I first started shooting trad, I had probably watched a Byron ferguson video lol. U
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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09/17/17 07:08 AM
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I haven't bought any arrows in a while. If you can still get the Carbon Express Heritage,they will be heavy enough without extra weight inserts and they are very tough. That's why I haven't bought any in a while. I've shot field points into trees and wiggled them out without any damage.
FYI I like them fairly light. Rod Jenkins shoots way lighter than 9gpp, more like 6gpp in ILF bows of low poundage and gets complete pass through.
You need a small diameter shaft, cut on contact sharp head, and a well tuned arrow.
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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TG, the Hill bow are straight longbow, not R/D longbows.
I've been shooting around 9-10gpp for 50 years, started shooting heavier prolly 10 years ago. You don't need a 570gr arra to kill a deer with a perfect shot but yer a better man than I am if you make, or get, perfect shots all the time. A heavier arra will be quieter and , more importantly, penetrate better than a light arra. Quartering shot? Hit a bone on entry? Big boar hog? All cases for the need for better penetration.
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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the Hills do prefer heavier arras.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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I shoot a gt 33/55 with a 150gn bh out of 45lb Thunderhorn Long bow. Haven't got a clue what they weigh? But they fly good and it's quite. I think that's a 500
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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I shoot a gt 33/55 with a 150gn bh out of 45lb Thunderhorn Long bow. Haven't got a clue what they weigh? But they fly good and it's quite. I think that's a 500 Yea,but that's .500 deflection right? If so, deflection really doesn't have anything to do with what they weigh.
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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"usually" the stiffer the shaft the more they weigh in the same shaft type. The GT35/55s are .500 deflection shafts.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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I shoot a gt 33/55 with a 150gn bh out of 45lb Thunderhorn Long bow. Haven't got a clue what they weigh? But they fly good and it's quite. I'd bet they show stiff bareshaft...feathers will hide imperfections in shaft tuning. how long are the shafts??
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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"usually" the stiffer the shaft the more they weigh in the same shaft type. The GT35/55s are .500 deflection shafts. That's true,though a different brand might be heavier or lighter with the same deflection.
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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I shoot a gt 33/55 with a 150gn bh out of 45lb Thunderhorn Long bow. Haven't got a clue what they weigh? But they fly good and it's quite. I think that's a 500 Yea,but that's .500 deflection right? If so, deflection really doesn't have anything to do with what they weigh. Yes, deflection. but what I was getting at was those are around 8 - 9 GPI for the GTs. I'm a wood guy though so that may not be 100% accurate
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I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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09/21/17 02:35 AM
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I shoot a gt 33/55 with a 150gn bh out of 45lb Thunderhorn Long bow. Haven't got a clue what they weigh? But they fly good and it's quite. I think that's a 500 Yea,but that's .500 deflection right? If so, deflection really doesn't have anything to do with what they weigh. Yes, deflection. but what I was getting at was those are around 8 - 9 GPI for the GTs. I'm a wood guy though so that may not be 100% accurate I don't remember the weight of the GT but I do remember that Carbon Express Heritage are a good bit heavier.
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Re: Traditional arrow weight
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09/21/17 03:26 AM
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I shoot a gt 33/55 with a 150gn bh out of 45lb Thunderhorn Long bow. Haven't got a clue what they weigh? But they fly good and it's quite. I think that's a 500 Yea,but that's .500 deflection right? If so, deflection really doesn't have anything to do with what they weigh. Yes, deflection. but what I was getting at was those are around 8 - 9 GPI for the GTs. I'm a wood guy though so that may not be 100% accurate I don't remember the weight of the GT but I do remember that Carbon Express Heritage are a good bit heavier. I don't either lol. I had some a few years ago for target practice. I have some traditional only carbons now for practice. They are 400 and are about 9 GPI. I think the 500s in that arrow are 8 GPI.
I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
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