Prices suprised me. Not bad.

Yep real cheap. I hope they get into the 9.5s and 10s.

Anyone heard any reviews about the company? Might be interested in buying some.

That's about as cheap as you can get it right now without ordering it yourself I imagine and there isn't much more to save from what I've seen. Hopefully they will keep it up and keep driving prices. Reviews I've seen are all good on the loads they have. Hopefully they can keep up with demand for tss and ammo this spring and they will make a killing.

Ive got some 12ga 3" #8 to shoot out of my M2 , havent patterned it yet but there customer service was great . even sent me pictures of different test patterns with different chokes out of the same gun im shooting. I plan on ordering some of there 20 ga. #9's also

They have 9.5s available for the 410

Be careful shooting 3" apex loads out of a 3" chambered gun. We got to test some of the first apex loads and I had a hunt ruined by one of their shells. The only conclusion we could make is that the shell was a little longer than the chamber, thus not engaging. This was in an 1187, so no "benelli click." Costed my buddy his first bird after working him till 11:30. Still makes me sick...

Wow, that is really strange; sorry you lost the bird.

I've heard of a lot of issues with roll crimped shells not feeding on a semi auto because they were too long. But I don't see how it could happen with a shell that was chambered. The 3" chamber is supposed to be 3" long so it can contain the entire hull after it's fired. An unfired 3" shell should be no more than about 2.75" long, even if roll crimped. Even shorter if fold crimped, and I suspect they are folding them to save time.

If you still have the shell, I'd examine it and measure the diameter near the end of it. My guess is they put too much pressure on the crimp and made the end expand too much to fit the chamber. I once had a factory load get wet and the end expanded like that. Fortunately it didn't cost me the turkey.

I say it ruined the hunt, but in all actuality that hunt was one of the best I've ever been on. I was sitting on bird #4, but my buddy Clayborn had never killed a turkey so it was his day to make it happen. We pulled up to the gate and started loading our guns and he pulls out a mixed handful of old turkey shells. Well I had a couple boxes that the military guy had given us and I talked them up like everyone else does. He puts one in the hole and puts his shells in the bottom. Long story short I've never heard so many birds gobble in my life and I had to kill that old double bearded bird at 7:30 because he came in sneaking from behind us. So I leave my gun behind(lesson learned) and we take off to get him one. We stuck and worked his bird out of some THICK hardwoods and he popped out at 7 yards strutting from left to right. Man I've never seen/been that close to a drumming bird... It looked like every feather on him was shimmering, he was vibrating/drumming so hard! Well he lines up with clay's barrel and then comes the CLICK, I started cutting and Clay shucked another one in and missed him in flight with his original shell. Man I was sick as a dog knowing that I talked him into using that shell. I'm not exactly sure what happened but there was a mark on the primer and I know the gun chambered completely. I talked about it with BC and Darrel and I think we came to the longer shell conclusion, but I could be wrong!( I'd had a few cold beers that night) I gave the shell back to them but never heard their explanation.

Every time a see a new thread or post about tss, I start thinking about buying a new 20 gauge. You guys are Killin me.

BC Reb that sucks on the unfired shell. In Apex defense any shell hand loaded or factory can have a miss fire. I like my O/U's 2 years ago on a Kentucky hunt I had one go click 20 yds from a strutting bird after crawling about a 100yds fanning him. I dropped the fan raised my gun and click nothing, all I could do is squeeze the trigger and hope the other barrel would go Boom and sure enough it did. Glad I carried the cynergy and also the Tom was so fired up he hung around just a split second to long. When I got home I cut open the shell and couldn't find a thing wrong all I could figure was maybe the primer just failed.

Looks like Federal is about to cock block apex and nitro

http://gobblernation.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=15121

Federal will sell the stew out of them for sure!

So..... how does a guy go about buying stock in federal. That's going to be huge.

It's amazing how fast everything is coming about.

Looks like the price is pretty low right now bottomed out since Trump was elected.

VISTA Outdoor Inc. VSTO is the company stock I believe.

They're just gonna get harder to kill when everyone starts using tss.

Prob similar to the advancement in turkey calls sounding more and more realistic.

But in actuality, it prob just means ppl will miss the at 70 yds now instead of 50

I bought a 870 in may.

I believe the parent company is ATK and sales of any TSS will be a minuscule drop in their bucket.

Awesome. Now I can switch to 20ga tss without having to buy all the crap to load my own. This is what I've been waiting on.