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If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... #2175323
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I was listening to the "News" on NPR today and they reported that over 50% of all births in the US this year were covered under Medicaid.

Let that fact sink in for a minute...

Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175333
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Those who don't study history are bound to repeat it. We are living in Rome in 475 AD.

Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175336
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It is nuts. No one "able" to support themselves, or even feed themselves. Obviously they are able, just unwilling.

They make the people who actually are down on their luck suffer.

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That number has grown a lot since the Medicare expansion kicked in under Obama care For those states that took it there Medicare roles have went up by something like 33% the senators and congressmen in those states are gonna be hard pressed to pass a bill that takes that away and keep there job. It is very hard to take something away from people after it has been given to them


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Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175381
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward–Piven_strategy

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Strategy[edit]
Cloward and Piven's article is focused on forcing the Democratic Party, which in 1966 controlled the presidency and both houses of the United States Congress, to take federal action to help the poor. They stated that full enrollment of those eligible for welfare "would produce bureaucratic disruption in welfare agencies and fiscal disruption in local and state governments" that would: "...deepen existing divisions among elements in the big-city Democratic coalition: the remaining white middle class, the working-class ethnic groups and the growing minority poor. To avoid a further weakening of that historic coalition, a national Democratic administration would be constrained to advance a federal solution to poverty that would override local welfare failures, local class and racial conflicts and local revenue dilemmas."[3]

They further wrote:

“ The ultimate objective of this strategy—to wipe out poverty by establishing a guaranteed annual income—will be questioned by some. Because the ideal of individual social and economic mobility has deep roots, even activists seem reluctant to call for national programs to eliminate poverty by the outright redistribution of income.[3] ”

Michael Reisch and Janice Andrews wrote that Cloward and Piven "proposed to create a crisis in the current welfare system – by exploiting the gap between welfare law and practice – that would ultimately bring about its collapse and replace it with a system of guaranteed annual income. They hoped to accomplish this end by informing the poor of their rights to welfare assistance, encouraging them to apply for benefits and, in effect, overloading an already overburdened bureaucracy."[4]


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Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175627
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I've have always believed that rewarding people to have children they can't afford, will be the downfall of this country.

Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175631
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I think that I read: Medicaid expenditures surpassed medicare.


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Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175637
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NPR may be even more fake than CNN.


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Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Beer Belly] #2175638
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Obama's tenure has likely taken this country on the direct path to socialism in several areas and there is not much the rest of us can do about it. Healthcare is ruined. I don't think we can fix it at this point.

Can the Republicans save us by creating Jobs and increasing revenues/tax base in order to kick the can a little further down the road?

I'm not sure they will or even can. The party is just not showing any leadership or strength. I think we're doomed personally.


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Medicaid by Race:

White = 42% (61% of population)
Black = 19% (13 of population)
Hispanic = 31% (18 of population)
Other = 8% (7% of population)


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Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175648
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war on poverty is what broke - is breaking - the bank - and society ...


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Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175650
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50% of stats are made up. NPR is FAKE news. Other than those two facts, I dunno....


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Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175685
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Even 25% is too high.


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2175761
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I looked into this. There are more sites that publish this number than just NPR.

Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2176116
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As of August 2016 Alabama had 889,441 enrolled on Medicaid and CHIP and the whole country had 73,137,154 with a population of approximately 325,000,000 for a total of 22.5% of the population. Here is a link that shows all the states.


If you're gonna be stupid you better be tough.
Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2176728
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I don't think some of you understand just how prevalent the socialist/communist ideology is in this country, especially in the current generation.


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the war on poverty would end if the lazy would get a job. Kill welfare, they'd work or starve. Too many can sit back and let the working class pay the bills.


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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
the war on poverty would end if the lazy would get a job. Kill welfare, they'd work or starve. Too many can sit back and let the working class pay the bills.


2 Thessalonians 3:10

For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: If You Don't Think We are Doomed as a Country... [Re: Irishguy] #2176748
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There's your first problem " listening to NPR" fake news which is slanted at about as much as possible.

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Originally Posted By: jmudler
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
the war on poverty would end if the lazy would get a job. Kill welfare, they'd work or starve. Too many can sit back and let the working class pay the bills.


2 Thessalonians 3:10

For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."
jmudler, That is the problem with this Country and the World in general in that so Many have strayed from what the Good book says and Do not put God's word as the end all be all. We fall short and are flawed but I truly believe if We keep God's word first and foremost in Our lives we would Be Much better off.


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