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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: extreme heights hunter]
#2156811
07/04/17 08:53 PM
07/04/17 08:53 PM
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James
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Buy DNZ and no lapping necessary. BINGO! I've got DNZ Game Reapers on almost all of my scoped guns. Can't beat 'em. Even they have lemons. I purchased one for my Rem700 police, and it's off quite a bit.... Well in this case, you return it, you don't fix it. True I've had about 8 months lol, reckon I'll give em a call.
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: Rebelman]
#2156861
07/05/17 02:40 AM
07/05/17 02:40 AM
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Posts: 7,883 Monroe County, AL
deadeye
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Talking about gun store lackeys... I bought a Steyr Pro Hunter at a well known Mobile Gun store and asked the salesperson who had years of experience put the one piece Leupold base on for me. MISTAKE - I watched him tighten the base screws and I could tell he was faking the torque he was putting on one of the screws. He walked away for a minute and I checked it and it was stripped. Called his hand on it and made them swap the rifle for a new one.
A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams
He alone is educated who has learned the lessons of open-mindedness
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: deadeye]
#2157092
07/05/17 07:15 AM
07/05/17 07:15 AM
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R_H_Clark
Leupold Pro Staff
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Talking about gun store lackeys... I bought a Steyr Pro Hunter at a well known Mobile Gun store and asked the salesperson who had years of experience put the one piece Leupold base on for me. MISTAKE - I watched him tighten the base screws and I could tell he was faking the torque he was putting on one of the screws. He walked away for a minute and I checked it and it was stripped. Called his hand on it and made them swap the rifle for a new one. It's been a long time since I was young and inexperienced enough to let any gun store employee work on one of my guns. I've had a few horror stories too. Now,I do all the small stuff,scope mounting,trigger adjusting,pillar bedding,and let a good gunsmith do anything else. Everyone who is a gun person needs to know how to do those things,and anyone can learn how to do them correctly if I can.
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: deadeye]
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07/05/17 09:14 AM
07/05/17 09:14 AM
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XVIII
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I like Burris Signature series rings with the plastic inserts that protect the scope tube and can be used to make gross corrections in elevation and windage with the proper inserts. Lapping is not needed because you can never 'bind' the tube..... http://www.burrisoptics.com/signature-ringsthese
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: XVIII]
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07/05/17 10:15 AM
07/05/17 10:15 AM
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Pretty much all I use is Burris Signature here as well. Weaver/Picatinny Style and only because that with the correct base this eliminates all issues with scope position relative to the ring spacing and eye relief.
Not saying they are better but this is the system I use across about all my guns and has always worked well. In particular with swapping scopes around on rifles, etc. So I try and run a lot of the same hardware.
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: Goatkiller]
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07/05/17 10:58 AM
07/05/17 10:58 AM
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R_H_Clark
Leupold Pro Staff
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Pretty much all I use is Burris Signature here as well. Weaver/Picatinny Style and only because that with the correct base this eliminates all issues with scope position relative to the ring spacing and eye relief.
Not saying they are better but this is the system I use across about all my guns and has always worked well. In particular with swapping scopes around on rifles, etc. So I try and run a lot of the same hardware. I prefer them too unless I'm going light, and then it's Talley Lightweights.I also use the Sako Optilock Ringmounts which have the insert just like the Burris Signatures. I actually had my first rings with inserts with the Sako ringmounts and liked them so much I started using the Burris rings.
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: Rebelman]
#2157671
07/05/17 06:07 PM
07/05/17 06:07 PM
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,883 Monroe County, AL
deadeye
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14 point
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I'm pretty anal about mounting my scopes. First I optically center my reticle by turning the windage and elevation one direction until it stops then counting the clicks back around until it stops again. Then dividing by two and counting back in that many clicks. I then attach my bases and properly torque with a wheeler torque driver. Then attach my Burris Signature rings (I always grease the front ring where it cams into the base)with the plastic inserts with no correction, place the scope in the rings and boresight. If much correction is needed I do it with the ring plastic inserts (+5/-5, etc.), check and adjust the reticle for canting and adjust eye relief, torque the screws then shoot for final adjustment using the scope internal adjustments. Be sure to purchase the additional Burris adjustment plastic insert kit.
For Leupold rings I have a 1" solid aluminum round bar about 24" long I use to key in the front ring and align the frt ring with the barrel. This is key for the Leupold rings.
A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams
He alone is educated who has learned the lessons of open-mindedness
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2157701
07/05/17 07:23 PM
07/05/17 07:23 PM
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Joined: Jun 2013
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James
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Pretty much all I use is Burris Signature here as well. Weaver/Picatinny Style and only because that with the correct base this eliminates all issues with scope position relative to the ring spacing and eye relief.
Not saying they are better but this is the system I use across about all my guns and has always worked well. In particular with swapping scopes around on rifles, etc. So I try and run a lot of the same hardware. I prefer them too unless I'm going light, and then it's Talley Lightweights.I also use the Sako Optilock Ringmounts which have the insert just like the Burris Signatures. I actually had my first rings with inserts with the Sako ringmounts and liked them so much I started using the Burris rings. Hmmm think I'm going to order me some for my Nosler...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: deadeye]
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07/06/17 04:49 AM
07/06/17 04:49 AM
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Posts: 10,377 coffee county
goodman_hunter
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Booner
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I'm pretty anal about mounting my scopes. First I optically center my reticle by turning the windage and elevation one direction until it stops then counting the clicks back around until it stops again. Then dividing by two and counting back in that many clicks.
if you dont have the insert adjustments, this isnt neccesary is it?
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: deadeye]
#2157873
07/06/17 05:03 AM
07/06/17 05:03 AM
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Joined: May 2012
Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
Leupold Pro Staff
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Leupold Pro Staff
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 8,670
NW Alabama
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I'm pretty anal about mounting my scopes. First I optically center my reticle by turning the windage and elevation one direction until it stops then counting the clicks back around until it stops again. Then dividing by two and counting back in that many clicks. I then attach my bases and properly torque with a wheeler torque driver. Then attach my Burris Signature rings (I always grease the front ring where it cams into the base)with the plastic inserts with no correction, place the scope in the rings and boresight. If much correction is needed I do it with the ring plastic inserts (+5/-5, etc.), check and adjust the reticle for canting and adjust eye relief, torque the screws then shoot for final adjustment using the scope internal adjustments. Be sure to purchase the additional Burris adjustment plastic insert kit.
For Leupold rings I have a 1" solid aluminum round bar about 24" long I use to key in the front ring and align the frt ring with the barrel. This is key for the Leupold rings.
You can also easily center your reticle by placing the objective end against a mirror and adjusting until both images of the reticle are aligned.
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: R_H_Clark]
#2157957
07/06/17 07:16 AM
07/06/17 07:16 AM
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,883 Monroe County, AL
deadeye
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14 point
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I'm pretty anal about mounting my scopes. First I optically center my reticle by turning the windage and elevation one direction until it stops then counting the clicks back around until it stops again. Then dividing by two and counting back in that many clicks. I then attach my bases and properly torque with a wheeler torque driver. Then attach my Burris Signature rings (I always grease the front ring where it cams into the base)with the plastic inserts with no correction, place the scope in the rings and boresight. If much correction is needed I do it with the ring plastic inserts (+5/-5, etc.), check and adjust the reticle for canting and adjust eye relief, torque the screws then shoot for final adjustment using the scope internal adjustments. Be sure to purchase the additional Burris adjustment plastic insert kit.
For Leupold rings I have a 1" solid aluminum round bar about 24" long I use to key in the front ring and align the frt ring with the barrel. This is key for the Leupold rings.
You can also easily center your reticle by placing the objective end against a mirror and adjusting until both images of the reticle are aligned. I will try that. Thanks
A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams
He alone is educated who has learned the lessons of open-mindedness
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: Rebelman]
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07/06/17 05:33 PM
07/06/17 05:33 PM
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Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 7,883 Monroe County, AL
deadeye
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Thanks R_H_Clark, the mirror trick works great.
A man is not old until regrets take the place of dreams
He alone is educated who has learned the lessons of open-mindedness
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: deadeye]
#2158690
07/07/17 05:06 AM
07/07/17 05:06 AM
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Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
Leupold Pro Staff
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Leupold Pro Staff
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Thanks R_H_Clark, the mirror trick works great. You're very welcome my friend.
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Re: Installing a scope the right way.
[Re: garyo]
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07/26/17 07:18 AM
07/26/17 07:18 AM
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Joined: May 2012
Posts: 8,670 NW Alabama
R_H_Clark
Leupold Pro Staff
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Leupold Pro Staff
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NW Alabama
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level rifle, a plumb bob, set eye relief, good to go. Where do you level the rifle with the scope on? I would like to try that method but I can't find a good spot to level with the scope on,nor have I ever had a rest-vice set up good enough that the rifle would stay level while you mounted the scope,if you had leveled it off the mounts.
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