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#215616 - 11/08/11 07:35 PM Baiting for hogs??
ford150man Offline
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Registered: 12/21/04
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It may be a dumb question but I couldn't find an answer on line. Is it legal to hunt over bait (corn or whatever) for hogs?
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#215621 - 11/08/11 07:41 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Chiefdog Offline
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Registered: 12/19/05
Posts: 296
Loc: Birmingham, AL
If you have a permit

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#215841 - 11/08/11 11:37 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Albin Offline
spike

Registered: 12/10/09
Posts: 61
Loc: North Alabama
My understanding is that the only thing you can hunt over is plain salt. You can't even use salt in the NF or WMAs.

go to outdoorsalabama.com and read the regs.

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#215965 - 11/09/11 02:14 AM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Hogwild Offline
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Registered: 11/23/04
Posts: 8998
Loc: Thomasville, AL
No, you cannot hunt hogs over bait.

UNLESS, you have a permit from the local GW......and they will ONLY write them during the times when there is NO other hunting season in.

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#216179 - 11/09/11 12:34 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
ElkHunter Offline
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Registered: 11/04/04
Posts: 8078
Loc: Prattville AL
Hogwild is correct, you can only get a permit outside of turkey and deer season.

If you can get a permit, baiting them is a great way to pattern and hunt them.

If you get one and need some advice getting set up, give me a call, I will be glad to help! LOL
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#219578 - 11/14/11 11:00 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ElkHunter]
SwampHunter Offline
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Registered: 04/15/00
Posts: 3060
Loc: Camden, AL
Is this not a stupid law? You can bait them in a trap and shoot them in a trap, but you can't just put out the corn, or feeder, and shoot them there. Why not allow the hunting of hogs over bait, without a permit, outside of deer and turkey seasons? Any reason not to request this law be changed? I got a permit for it myself, but the standard permit also gives me the right to shoot deer and hogs at night. That was more than I needed and a waste of the game warden's time in having to do the paperwork anyway.


Edited by SwampHunter (11/14/11 11:01 PM)

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#219693 - 11/15/11 01:14 AM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Hogwild Offline
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Registered: 11/23/04
Posts: 8998
Loc: Thomasville, AL
ABSOLUTELY!!!

Technically, by the Regulations in place now......if I get invited to a property to catch hogs that are eating up expensive deer feed and turn my dogs loose in the 'area' of the feed......I am hunting with the aid of bait and breaking the Law.

How stupid is that????

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#220057 - 11/15/11 02:04 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: Hogwild]
SwampHunter Offline
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Registered: 04/15/00
Posts: 3060
Loc: Camden, AL
Hogwild, it makes no sense at all. I am going to work on this through the advisory board and see what we can get in motion to change this. I know two of the guys and I'll see what we can do.

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#220080 - 11/15/11 02:35 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
ElkHunter Offline
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Registered: 11/04/04
Posts: 8078
Loc: Prattville AL
It has been interesting to me to attend the CAB meetings and hear the many speakers talk about hog problems. And I continue to hear that hunting won't have an impact on the population explosion. Yet, nothing really seems to be getting done. I do know that doing nothing will not stop the hogs.

Dead hogs to not reproduce.
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#220437 - 11/15/11 09:39 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Moose24 Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 2656
Loc: Shelby
Those jokers are tearing us up. My best green field is now at least 50% destroyed. Where can I buy some portable traps? I guess if I was to bait the trap with corn, I don't want to be anywhere near it while deer hunting.
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#220949 - 11/16/11 01:43 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: Moose24]
ElkHunter Offline
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Registered: 11/04/04
Posts: 8078
Loc: Prattville AL
Moose,

If you have a buddy that can weld, I can help you build one.
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#220965 - 11/16/11 02:11 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
SwampHunter Offline
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Registered: 04/15/00
Posts: 3060
Loc: Camden, AL
I have some designs for one you can build yourself on my website at www.wilcoxwebworks.com/hs Look for the hog trapping page. Has a guillotine door made of wood that works well. Open top so deer can jump out. We have had a lot of trouble catching more deer than hogs in our totally enclosed traps. There is a guy in Camden that sells some very good doors too if you are interested in purchasing one. Call Park Harris at 334-682-4410

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#221324 - 11/16/11 09:52 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Moose24 Offline
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Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 2656
Loc: Shelby
Thanks for the info. I had already been eyeing the plans on your website. :-)
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#221387 - 11/16/11 11:53 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Clem Offline
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Registered: 12/31/02
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So ...

You can legally use bait (hafta get a permit?) in a trap and then kill an animal inside that pen?

But without the trap, you can't use bait and shoot the hogs eating it?
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#221462 - 11/17/11 01:19 AM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
coon_killer Offline
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Registered: 07/04/11
Posts: 808
Loc: Whatley Al
i have one i might sale
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#222611 - 11/18/11 06:01 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: coon_killer]
SwampHunter Offline
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Registered: 04/15/00
Posts: 3060
Loc: Camden, AL
Clem, I don't think you need a permit to trap hogs using bait, then shoot them. But you can't just bait and shoot them. Make no sense. This is something that needs to be changed, for sure. I've got an advisory board member looking into it but this is something that really should be changed by executive order in my opinion.

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#223164 - 11/19/11 07:22 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: Clem]
Big Jack Offline
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Registered: 10/18/10
Posts: 2885
Loc: St. Clair County
Originally Posted By: Clem
So ...

You can legally use bait (hafta get a permit?) in a trap and then kill an animal inside that pen?

But without the trap, you can't use bait and shoot the hogs eating it?


You can bait them to a trap(without a permit) even during other hunting seasons but you can not hunt in the area that the baited trap is located.
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#223386 - 11/20/11 01:46 AM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Hogwild Offline
14 point

Registered: 11/23/04
Posts: 8998
Loc: Thomasville, AL
You are right!

My Father-in-Law got a ticket in Monroe County several years ago for that.

He was invited to hunt a place with some friends and they put him in a nice food plot on Flat Creek. Right before dark, the GW pulled into the patch in his truck, got out and walked up to the house and got him down. There was a baited hog trap in the woods just off the field.....got 3 of them that afternoon and the tickets stuck......

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#223529 - 11/20/11 04:24 AM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Out back Offline
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Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 8919
Loc: Wetumpka
That's a good design, Swamphunter, but I would replace that trap door with a spring-loaded root door. You can catch multiple hogs with a spring-loaded door.
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#225293 - 11/23/11 01:05 AM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: Out back]
Big Jack Offline
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Registered: 10/18/10
Posts: 2885
Loc: St. Clair County
Originally Posted By: Out back
That's a good design, Swamphunter, but I would replace that trap door with a spring-loaded root door. You can catch multiple hogs with a spring-loaded door.


Either spring loaded or gravity will get um by the multiples. However I caught 7 at one time with a guillotine door like Williams.
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#226185 - 11/25/11 12:32 AM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: Big Jack]
Out back Offline
Grumpy Old Man

Registered: 10/10/08
Posts: 8919
Loc: Wetumpka
Originally Posted By: Big Jack


Either spring loaded or gravity will get um by the multiples. However I caught 7 at one time with a guillotine door like Williams.


So a pregnant sow got trapped and gave birth to 6 piglets?
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#226198 - 11/25/11 01:32 AM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
scrubbuck Offline
8 point

Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 2390
Loc: Bay Minette, AL
I've caught up to 8 at a time in this trap and it has a gravity door.


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#228874 - 11/29/11 12:58 AM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: Out back]
Big Jack Offline
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Registered: 10/18/10
Posts: 2885
Loc: St. Clair County
Originally Posted By: Out back
Originally Posted By: Big Jack


Either spring loaded or gravity will get um by the multiples. However I caught 7 at one time with a guillotine door like Williams.


So a pregnant sow got trapped and gave birth to 6 piglets?

Not exactly but the trap is only 4X6 and I caught 2 75# shoults in it last night. Put one in the freezer and gave one to a friend in Camden. There is a picture around here someplace of this trailer full in the trap before I killed um. There were two more, one alive, that are not on there yet.


Edited by Big Jack (11/29/11 01:00 AM)
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#229286 - 11/29/11 04:21 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: Big Jack]
Albin Offline
spike

Registered: 12/10/09
Posts: 61
Loc: North Alabama
How do you guys get your hogs out of the trap, shoot them or tie them up?

Here is what I used to design and build my trap: http://wildhoghunters.com/content/section/218-how-build-hog-trap.html

And here's a pic of mine:



More pics here: http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p111/Albinator/Hog%20Trap/


Edited by Albin (11/29/11 04:22 PM)

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#229375 - 11/29/11 06:43 PM Re: Baiting for hogs?? [Re: ford150man]
Big Jack Offline
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Registered: 10/18/10
Posts: 2885
Loc: St. Clair County
Thats a neet little rig right there. thumbup But I believe I would want the sides just a little higher. That is if my idea of how it works is right and that is the bottom, as it is shown, is acutally the top and is open.
I usually put a .22 between and just above the eyes or right behind the ear and towards the eye on the other side. But when I do take one out alive, I drop a noose around his neck and pull the rope through the wire near the door. Pull his head up to the wire and reach in and get him by a back leg, pull him out, throw him on his side and tie him up. If its a big un, I get some help and do basically the same thing.


Edited by Big Jack (11/29/11 06:47 PM)
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