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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: EarlPitts]
#1925977
11/22/16 03:43 PM
11/22/16 03:43 PM
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Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,277 Alabama
jmj120
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I'm betting timber cruising not hunters They don't look like timber men. Like someone else said, County workers. They have that look.
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: timbercruiser]
#1926043
11/22/16 04:11 PM
11/22/16 04:11 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,775 Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
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Freak of Nature
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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I think it is just two old codgers out piddlin. They might have had hunting permission on the land at some point in time, but forgot they lost it. Timber cruisers don't carry around fence pliers and bolt cutters. Like someone else said, utility workers that need access to land carry bolt cutters and will use them in a heartbeat. That is the purpose of having double locks on your gates. One is yours, the other is the power companies. Remove theirs and they will remove yours for you.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: centralala]
#1926300
11/23/16 12:08 AM
11/23/16 12:08 AM
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Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 12,788 Thomasville, AL
Hogwild
Booner
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Booner
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I don't know how ya'll can tell that is bolt cutters. With the leather gloves, wire cutters, ask any cattleman and he would say that is a crimping tool for fence repair. I use a pair with handles just like that. My thought the whole time has been guys looking for escaped cattle and fixing fences. Not sure about the Law now.....But, it used to be legal for them to pursue and retrieve cattle from almost anywhere.
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: Rebelman]
#1926573
11/23/16 05:20 AM
11/23/16 05:20 AM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,103 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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Booner
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My uncle got a big settlement from an oil company that ran tests on his land without permission. .
He got lucky. Minerals is the dominate estate in Alabama. They have to pay for crop and timber damage but typically nothing more. Testing is a grey area. Most companies offer a token to appease the landowner and receive indemnification. Can you educate me on what "dominate estate" means? My uncle owns the mineral rights to the property. He knew an oil company was testing in the area, but they never contacted him. They did contact some of his neighbors and paid them for something - I'm not sure if they actually leased their land or just paid to test it. So they had permission to be on his neighbors land. From there, they accessed the back side of his property. He took pictures of their trucks and equipment set up on his land with a string of flagging across it for some reason. At any rate, they found out what was on his land without asking. Didn't really do any damage. When he confronted the company, they claimed to be confused about the property line and offered a token settlement. He took it to court before a jury in Baldwin co and won a significant settlement. He never told me the amount, but I'm pretty sure it was 6 figures. He never bought their claim about not knowing the property line. He thought they just wanted to test his land and not pay him. I guess the jury agreed. So was this unusual? I was kinda surprised he ever got anything. It dragged on for years.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: Kelly_123]
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11/23/16 06:31 AM
11/23/16 06:31 AM
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257wbymag
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They're looking for lost cows or sign of them around that feeder more than likely.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: Rebelman]
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11/23/16 08:42 AM
11/23/16 08:42 AM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 12,103 Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
Booner
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In that case it isn't totally unusual. I was speaking in the context that the mineral ownership was severed from the surface, which is the case most of the time. Him being the owner of both put him in a very good position for compensation.
Most mineral owners however welcome the testing. It is really the only way they can ever get to market. Typically, it is the surface owner that doesn't have mineral ownership is hesitant about the testing.
Thanks! I understand about the mineral rights belonging to someone else. I have mineral rights on most of the land at the farm, but on one tract I bought the seller retained half. It wasn't a deal breaker because it's likely worthless anyway. I do not own mineral rights on the land where I live. Almost nobody in my area does. Some company bought the mineral rights for the whole area decades ago. I certainly wouldn't willingly assist them if they wanted to look for something. I'd hate to have an oil well in my yard, but there wouldn't be a thing I could do about it. My uncle was in a much different situation. The thing is, he wanted to let the company test his land and I'm sure he would have let them do it for a token payment. Poor business on their part to try to strong arm instead.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: 257wbymag]
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11/25/16 08:51 AM
11/25/16 08:51 AM
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outdoorobsession
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outdoorobsession
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They're looking for lost cows or sign of them around that feeder more than likely. I think IM going with this too. They look like Farmers to me. That or under cover fish and game guys dressing as farmers on feeder locating duty. Looks like the one guy PINNED that one with his cell phone. LOL. Be careful around there...the next ones will be dressed in solid green...
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: Breadwinner1]
#2136386
06/12/17 12:37 PM
06/12/17 12:37 PM
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Posts: 15,862 Elmore County
Frankie
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Old Mossy Horns
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I HUNT a olderman,s land that has a 3 powerline right aways.The powercompany has rights to cut the right aways without any permission given.I have hunted a couple of clubs with traintracks that workers work on several different factors could be and ppwer companys will cut locks and replace it with a 2 way lock pin were you have a lock and they have a lock ,many factors to consider. Its not illegal to carry a pistol. IF they were ppoacher you would be missing stands and camera,s. if they are off the right of way , they have to have permission to be there . they cant be just roaming around or just cutting through your land to cut right of ways . been there there done this with alabama power for tearing up fences and letting cows out . we used to let them come across out land to cut about two mile of right of way in between to biggggg gulleys . when they came through the last time they just ran over a new 5 strand barb wire fence and just left it . daddy hunted them down told them next time they cut they'd have to bring bulldozers in because they were not coming back across him again . and that's what they did . lol
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: Kelly_123]
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06/12/17 04:52 PM
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BhamFred
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call and raise hell, they will fix it.
they crushed a metal pipe on my place driving those huge trucks over it, I called and had it replaced within a few days.
subcontractors trimming limbs left a hell of a mess on my place two years ago, I had em out there the next day cleaning it all up.
Call the highest up person with AP you can find and let it roll downhill.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: Kelly_123]
#2136659
06/12/17 05:13 PM
06/12/17 05:13 PM
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Posts: 15,982 Brierfield
Beadlescomb
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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looks like two old queers gwtting ready to burn the bearings out in all your stands
We will burn that bridge when we get there
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: Kelly_123]
#2136668
06/12/17 05:23 PM
06/12/17 05:23 PM
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Posts: 4,620 Alabama
Rmart30
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Ya'll think Ala power is bad. Wait till the rail road comes thru.
Ethical behavior is doing the right thing when no one else is watching - even when doing the wrong thing is legal. Aldo Leopold .. (except when it comes to trailer tags)
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Re: Tresspassers - Do you know these rats?
[Re: Rmart30]
#2136791
06/13/17 02:42 AM
06/13/17 02:42 AM
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Posts: 3,995 pensacola,fl
dagwood
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10 point
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We had a railroad run though our lease in Monroe Co. The train would slow or stop sometimes on our property. One day a member who was hunting close to the railroad stepped out just in time to see a guy on the train step off the stopped train and shoot into the woods. He saw him and got back on the train as it was pulling away. The member went over to where he shot and found a dead hen turkey. A couple of us want to call a LEO but our president said no so we dropped it. I should have gone ahead and had the guy busted.
jmlane
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