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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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Wow! Is it a common occurrence for pigs to not have ears? I saw a sow hog in Coy Southwest Wilcox county last fall with no ears and it was just plain weird looking.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 12:49 AM
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I'd just about try to whip a sumbitches azz for cutting off ears and turning em loose.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 01:16 AM
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Wow! Is it a common occurrence for pigs to not have ears? I saw a sow hog in Coy Southwest Wilcox county last fall with no ears and it was just plain weird looking. It isn't real common mainly because most everyone kills every hog they catch. If it is done by man which it appears to have been on this hog (clean even cuts on both sides) it is more than likely not a dog hunter. A big toothed boar hog with no ears is a dog killer. I really don't know why someone would have released this hog since they didn't Barr him.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 03:37 AM
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Too me that's a waste and not far to the animal reguardless of what it is. In my opinion people who do things like that give everybody else a bad name.
I would rather be tried by 12, than carried by 6.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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Sounds like a bunch of sweethearts. Gut shooting and ear cutting, real nice folks! Think it's any less painful for the hogs to have a pit bull chew their face off and rip their ears off. Or have some jack leg yuppie have to make 20 bazillion different stabs trying to find the heart? Or the same folks that think it's awesome to blow hogs up with tannerite, or shoot them out on helicopters or air boats. Think any get gut shot/injured using that method?I ain't got nothing against hog dogging or killing, but let's not care about hogs feelings some time but not others.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 07:09 AM
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Too me that's a waste and not far to the animal reguardless of what it is. In my opinion people who do things like that give everybody else a bad name. A waste you say? What about the millions of lbs of venison that is left to rot each summer from depredation permits? Ain't no difference in shooting a hog and letting it lay or not tracking it, and hogs prob do more extensive crop damage than deer do.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 07:50 AM
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Gut shooting something on purpose for it to suffer for your convenience and gut shooting something accidentally are two completely different things in my eyes. So is a hog getting his ears torn up by a dog in the few minutes before it is killed and cutting ones ears off and releasing it for who knows what reason so it suffers for a least a lot longer time. I don't have much compassion for animals in general, but I am not going to intentionally make them suffer. so suffering is ok but only for a certain time limit that you consider acceptable? And on depredation permits we gut shoot, leg shoot, heart shoot, pretty much any shot we can get, and to be honest we would prefer that the deer don't drop in the field and run off in the woods. Why aren't you up in arms about the poor deers feelings?
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 08:35 AM
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I didn't know we had PETA supporters on here...
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 09:42 AM
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Yes, for the shortest amount of time it takes to get the job done with the tools at hand. Give me a legitimate reason for cutting a hogs ears clean off and letting it go and I might change my mind. And I am not "up in arms" about any of it, deer or hogs. Just don't see the point in it . Gut shooting something on purpose for it to suffer for your convenience and gut shooting something accidentally are two completely different things in my eyes. So is a hog getting his ears torn up by a dog in the few minutes before it is killed and cutting ones ears off and releasing it for who knows what reason so it suffers for a least a lot longer time. I don't have much compassion for animals in general, but I am not going to intentionally make them suffer. so suffering is ok but only for a certain time limit that you consider acceptable? And on depredation permits we gut shoot, leg shoot, heart shoot, pretty much any shot we can get, and to be honest we would prefer that the deer don't drop in the field and run off in the woods. Why aren't you up in arms about the poor deers feelings?
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 10:06 AM
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I didn't know we had PETA supporters on here... I hope your not talking about me. I was just trying to figure out how some folks complain about gut shooting hogs, and their ears being cut off as inhumane, but those same folks don't question blowing them up with tannerite or shooting them out of helos, or letting catch dogs maul them. I just don't understand the division. IMHO I think they should be killed any legal way possible. Give me a legitimate reason for cutting a hogs ears clean off and letting it go and I might change my mind. [/quote][/quote] I don't have one, and have no clue why some one would do that. I just don't see the difference in a human cutting off their ears, and a catch dog tearing them off. Ears are gone either way due to human intervention.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 10:44 AM
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I've heard of hound hunters cutting ears and tail and realeasing them cause they didn't like the cur dog hunters.lol. the curs tend to get raped more so than the hounds supposedly. Sounds stupid to me.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 11:03 AM
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Sounds like a bunch of sweethearts. Gut shooting and ear cutting, real nice folks! Think it's any less painful for the hogs to have a pit bull chew their face off and rip their ears off. Or have some jack leg yuppie have to make 20 bazillion different stabs trying to find the heart? Or the same folks that think it's awesome to blow hogs up with tannerite, or shoot them out on helicopters or air boats. Think any get gut shot/injured using that method?I ain't got nothing against hog dogging or killing, but let's not care about hogs feelings some time but not others. First, a good pit doesn't chew and shake he holds. Second, when I stick a hog I guarantee that it is dead quick with on stab than any bullet behind the shoulders. And last but not least, I don't care how anyone else kills anything as long as it is legal. I may not understand it but as said earlier "To Each His Own". I personally don't turn a bulldog loose until I am less than 50 yards are so from the bay to cut down on the time that the dogs are caught so the hog and dogs are less likely to be tore up.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/11/17 11:47 AM
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Too me that's a waste and not far to the animal reguardless of what it is. In my opinion people who do things like that give everybody else a bad name. A waste you say? What about the millions of lbs of venison that is left to rot each summer from depredation permits? Ain't no difference in shooting a hog and letting it lay or not tracking it, and hogs prob do more extensive crop damage than deer do. Damages aside. Why make an animal suffer for no reason? There is not one. As a hunter or a sportsman the kill is supposed to be ethical. Not to mutilate the animal for no reason. I haven't delt with them as long as most on here have. Only because we move a lot. Still no reason to torture an animal for nothing.
I would rather be tried by 12, than carried by 6.
Famous redneck last words -- Hey y'all watch this... Hold my beer.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
[Re: !shiloh!]
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05/11/17 02:22 PM
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Did they hog have it's top teeth that sharpen it's cutters? Whetters. Not sure of the spelling.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
[Re: BayedUp]
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05/12/17 03:22 PM
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I wonder if somehow another hog or something could have eaten the ears off.
“Everything Woke Turns To SH_T” Donald J. Trump
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
[Re: BayedUp]
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05/12/17 03:51 PM
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The one I saw was completely healed up with hair growing kinda like it just never had ears. Where I saw it I can't imagine anyone cutting them off but I guess it's possible .
“Everything Woke Turns To SH_T” Donald J. Trump
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
[Re: BayedUp]
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05/12/17 04:34 PM
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Most catch dogs are trained or instinctively catch by the ear. When they run in trying to catch they either miss or can't get a good grip and are more likely to get cut up. Which also opens the bay dogs up to being cut. Ok, that is what my original thought was but not sure. Never done any hog hunting of any kind.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
[Re: BayedUp]
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05/12/17 04:57 PM
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other hogs and dogs don't chew em off clean like a knife cut. Some assholes do it so the hog can/will kill another mans dog.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
proud Cracker-Americaan
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/13/17 12:31 PM
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Damages aside. Why make an animal suffer for no reason? There is not one. As a hunter or a sportsman the kill is supposed to be ethical. Not to mutilate the animal for no reason.
X2 - I completely agree.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
[Re: BayedUp]
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05/14/17 11:01 AM
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I have only got to hog hunt a few times. Got lucky enough to get two the last time I went. But I was sitting in a shoot house waiting on them to come out.
I would love to go with somebody one day that has dogs. Would be fun for me to learn and see another way. Nothing like the sound of the dogs. I remember the coon hounds goings crazy back home.
But I don't know how much longer we will be here.
I would rather be tried by 12, than carried by 6.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/14/17 11:51 AM
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I killed a boar last year that had had his ears and tail removed. I have no idea if it was by a knife or from dogs. I just know that that hog was mean. I was added bait to trap location that I was prebaiting. He ran my back into my truck.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/16/17 03:34 AM
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We have some lazy a.. people in our club that shoots every dang hog they see in the guts cause they are to damn lazy to do anything with . I don't get it shoot it let it run off and suffer, rot and smell to high heavens is better than shoulder shooting and giving it away? Makes no sense to me I hear that more than I should. It is amazing how many hogs I find around food plots when we start working properties right after deer season goes out. They are not hard to locate, just follow the stink.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
[Re: Bait57]
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05/16/17 05:21 AM
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I have only got to hog hunt a few times. Got lucky enough to get two the last time I went. But I was sitting in a shoot house waiting on them to come out.
I would love to go with somebody one day that has dogs. Would be fun for me to learn and see another way. Nothing like the sound of the dogs. I remember the coon hounds goings crazy back home.
But I don't know how much longer we will be here. just some info on it. Most folks like silent curs that only bark when they bay. A few folks use hounds. I personally think the curs have better results because the hog runs of and quits when he dont hear the dogs barking behind him anymore. I like the hounds better, cause you can hear the race better. You can tell when there trailing and when there running, and when there bayed. They can bay one too, it just takes a little longer. Its pretty intense walking into a bay when you know its a big mean hog with cutters. Theres nothing like it really. Ive seen big sows grab a hound by the neck, put him on the ground, and shake him like a bulldog.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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05/21/17 04:28 AM
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too much trouble. just kill the damn thing This. Personally, I love the meat, so I always look for a clean, quick, kill. However, feral hogs are like insects, and I couldn't care less about their "feelings" regarding being shot, stabbed, or bayed up by dogs.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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Last week when the water was high and the hogs was running all over the farm I contacted some guys with some " BAD ASS HOG DOGS" and they came and met me. I showed the farm where we had been seeing the hogs regularly and where lots of fresh sign was. They showed up Tuesday and unloaded their 4 wheelers and loaded all the dogs up and started hunting. I went meet them and had my AR15 strapped on me. They asked what I was gonna do with that. Told them I was gonn kill every hog I see. He told me we don't shoot them we stab them after the dogs catch them. I told him the dogs better not let the hogs get out in the open fields than. After a few hrs of chasing dogs around the farm I told them I had some work to do and left. I met back up with them later on that day and they told me they had found a boar hog the dogs were still trying to bay it again. I said again. He told me they had it bayed in a pond and had to wait for The catch dog to get there. Guy gets there turns dog loose and he jumps in the pond and catches the hog on the side and the hog spun and hit the dog and knocked the dog down. The hog jumped out the pond and hauled arse. Never to be seen again. I asked why he didn't use the hand gun he had to just shoot the hog while it was in the pond. He said there's no sport in that, that they want the dogs to get the hogs. I told him we don't play catch and release with the hogs, we want them all dead. I had them catch all their dogs and get off the farm.From all the pics I see posted of dead hogs I think you bama dog hunters do better than that. I hope. After that silly arse episode I'm not a big fan of hunting hogs with dogs. I will try to just shoot all I can when they show up and keep the fan off the farm.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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I can understand not shooting when the dogs have the hog bayed for the safety of the dogs. But don't stand over the hog that is laying in the grass on the edge of a pond for 10mins waiting for a guy to bring his dog. I guarantee you one thing if I would have drove up on them and that hog was just laying there, they wouldn't of had to wait any longer for that dog. The hog would've never left the pond. They won't ever have to worry about me shooting around their dogs because that was a big waste of time and money.
It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chews your a$$ all day long.
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Re: No ears and another deer season survivor
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He said there's no sport in that, that they want the dogs to get the hogs. I get calls regularly along with posts on here saying the same thing. "If hogs are such a problem, why won't landowners let people on their land to kill them." It is not "SPORT" to many of these landowners. They want the dang critters dead.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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