Good question,,it amazes me that in completion shooting
Your 12 ring or not happy at all! Is that correct?

See there. My group doesn't even compare to Shaw's group. Why is it that on nearly every group whether four or five shot groups it seems like you'll have one that will tail out of the group? And no it's not the same arrow every time.

From my experience, it's operator error. Reason why I always hated shooting spots. Pissed me off that I couldn't drill that X every time from 20 yards. It was always a loss of focus, fatigue or a combo of both.

You have a tuning issue. Possibly a spine issue. The 4 fletch stabilizes flight faster thus resulting in better groups.Either that or your form is really bad.


I'm not as informed about compound tuning but with a stickbow,if you are tuned perfectly and have great form,you can shoot bare shafts without any fletching to the exact same spot as fletched arrows. The fletching just helps correct errors in form or tuning.

Can you bareshaft test a compound like you do a stickbow? If so that's where I would start to see what's wrong. Lots of online info about bareshaft tuning.

See there. My group doesn't even compare to Shaw's group. Why is it that on nearly every group whether four or five shot groups it seems like you'll have one that will tail out of the group? And no it's not the same arrow every time.

Either one of those groups are better than 99% of people who shoot a compound bow can do at 50yds. Saying that it's out of tune or he has "really bad form" is dumb.

Slug, I've tried 4 fletch but can't tell a difference on my rig. I'm shooting x cutters. Of course, my average groups aren't that tight, so it may be helping and I just can't tell.

What kills me, is dropping low out of 12s. I shot a known course the other day, and shot 7-8s in a row. 1/4" below the 12. Everyone of them would have smacked a penny right below the 12. Every now and then I'll do this, makes me want to throw my damn bow in the woods.

R H Clark I didn't take it as an insult but it did get me to thinking about was it the bow tune or the extra spin it gives the arrow. I took it to the pro shop because I wanted to make sure it was still tuned. I just got this bow about a month ago and before I set it up I had the strings and cables reserved so I wanted to be sure that hadn't stretched or something. After all they don't charge me for labor. That's why I let them put their name on my shooters shirt. I'm sure there's a lot of room for improvement on my form as well. And I'm definitely not satisfied with those groups and won't be until they're all in the x every time.

All you need now is to drop the wheels and practice until you can shoot a stick like that. It will readjust what you thought was good before, and your new level of good will be even more satisfying. No,I'm not saying I'm that good,I just enjoy my good shots even more now.

I shot Tuscaloosa on April 22 in the traditional class. I had a whopping 96 points on 20 targets. We had a good time though and didn't loose any arrows. I was using a longbow and the other guys had recurves. They kicked my butt. Johnny had a 128, Larry had a 127 and Chester had a 114.

What was the possible? What kind of percentage are you scoring? If I ever see you at a trad shoot (Howard Hill Possibly) you need to try one of my target ILF recurves. I have one with 25" riser and riser weighs 5 lbs. Anyone use to compounds should shoot it very well.

All you need now is to drop the wheels and practice until you can shoot a stick like that. It will readjust what you thought was good before, and your new level of good will be even more satisfying. No,I'm not saying I'm that good,I just enjoy my good shots even more now.