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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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05/05/17 11:39 AM
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I don't have numbers for you, however , I can say if you have a 60 hp tractor you need a 8-10ft wheel disk with the amount you want to do. A drawbar pulled disk will do a much better and faster job than a 3 point. I have a JD 5205 4x4 ( 55 hp). I used to have a 10ft JD wheel disk. You could get some work done in a hurry and was a much better seed bed. I sold it because it was too wide to move through the woods from plot to plot. Would love to sneak up on a good 8ft.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: centralala]
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05/05/17 12:40 PM
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I don't have numbers for you, however , I can say if you have a 60 hp tractor you need a 8-10ft wheel disk with the amount you want to do. A drawbar pulled disk will do a much better and faster job than a 3 point. I have a JD 5205 4x4 ( 55 hp). I used to have a 10ft JD wheel disk. You could get some work done in a hurry and was a much better seed bed. I sold it because it was too wide to move through the woods from plot to plot. Would love to sneak up on a good 8ft. You should have just widened your roads and I have just what you need. Today I acquired a snow plow. EVERYBODY needs a snow plow, especially for road clearing! I now have what I need to widen roads, FD5 Fiat-Allis dozer. For my use I'd still just soon to have a 8ft disk.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: 2Dogs]
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05/05/17 12:53 PM
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centralala
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I don't have numbers for you, however , I can say if you have a 60 hp tractor you need a 8-10ft wheel disk with the amount you want to do. A drawbar pulled disk will do a much better and faster job than a 3 point. I have a JD 5205 4x4 ( 55 hp). I used to have a 10ft JD wheel disk. You could get some work done in a hurry and was a much better seed bed. I sold it because it was too wide to move through the woods from plot to plot. Would love to sneak up on a good 8ft. You should have just widened your roads and I have just what you need. Today I acquired a snow plow. EVERYBODY needs a snow plow, especially for road clearing! I now have what I need to widen roads, FD5 Fiat-Allis dozer. For my use I'd still just soon to have a 8ft disk. If you just got the dozer you are about to take your land/wildlife management to a new level. After a while you will wonder how you did without one. I have a small JD. My #1 management tool hands down.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: 2Dogs]
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05/05/17 01:21 PM
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I don't have numbers for you, however , I can say if you have a 60 hp tractor you need a 8-10ft wheel disk with the amount you want to do. A drawbar pulled disk will do a much better and faster job than a 3 point. I have a JD 5205 4x4 ( 55 hp). I used to have a 10ft JD wheel disk. You could get some work done in a hurry and was a much better seed bed. I sold it because it was too wide to move through the woods from plot to plot. Would love to sneak up on a good 8ft. You should have just widened your roads and I have just what you need. Today I acquired a snow plow. EVERYBODY needs a snow plow, especially for road clearing! I now have what I need to widen roads, FD5 Fiat-Allis dozer. For my use I'd still just soon to have a 8ft disk. 8ft is a good size and you can haul it a lot easier than a 10ft. I have an 8ft Athens and it's a really good disc
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: centralala]
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05/05/17 04:26 PM
05/05/17 04:26 PM
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I don't have numbers for you, however , I can say if you have a 60 hp tractor you need a 8-10ft wheel disk with the amount you want to do. A drawbar pulled disk will do a much better and faster job than a 3 point. I have a JD 5205 4x4 ( 55 hp). I used to have a 10ft JD wheel disk. You could get some work done in a hurry and was a much better seed bed. I sold it because it was too wide to move through the woods from plot to plot. Would love to sneak up on a good 8ft. You should have just widened your roads and I have just what you need. Today I acquired a snow plow. EVERYBODY needs a snow plow, especially for road clearing! I now have what I need to widen roads, FD5 Fiat-Allis dozer. For my use I'd still just soon to have a 8ft disk. If you just got the dozer you are about to take your land/wildlife management to a new level. After a while you will wonder how you did without one. I have a small JD. My #1 management tool hands down. I have big plans.
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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05/05/17 11:52 PM
05/05/17 11:52 PM
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Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
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I can bush hog 4 acres per hour, and disk about 2 acres an hour. That's a good deep disking. I'd figure 10 hours bush hogging, to allow for some traveling time and field maintenance. Then about 16 to 18 hours disking. Probably another 10 hours for planting and covering. Roughly 40 hours total.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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05/05/17 11:56 PM
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Tell you what, I'll bring my equipment and do it all for $2500 plus $1.00 per mile travel expense, one round trip. You furnish seed & fertilizer.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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05/06/17 02:37 AM
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50hp tractor, 6' bush hog and 6' disk. Those are averages, obviously if the fields are cab high in saplings or knee deep in mud, that could vary.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: Remington270]
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05/06/17 07:34 AM
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I thought Outback's estimate on time was very "ambitious".
"Why do you ask"?
Always vote the slowest path to socialism.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: 2Dogs]
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05/06/17 12:48 PM
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I thought Outback's estimate on time was very "ambitious". The 4 acres per hour was doubtful to me so I did a little test today. I bush hogged .9254 acres in 45 minutes. Measured the area with a gps. It was open pasture with a few trees to mow around. I was running at 1900 rpms in low 3rd gear. I was running around 4.5 mph. Fairly short grass that was mowed late last summer. Never had to touch the throttle, never backed up and mower was always in the grass until last few passes. Conditions rarely get any better than this and don't really like to go any faster than that. So under excellent conditions my best would be about 1 1/4 acres per hour. 49 hp tractor with 6' mower on wide open pasture. 4 acres per hour with a 6' mower would win the gold at the tractor Olympics and could compete with a 15'batwing
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: ronfromramer]
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05/06/17 02:15 PM
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I thought Outback's estimate on time was very "ambitious". The 4 acres per hour was doubtful to me so I did a little test today. I bush hogged .9254 acres in 45 minutes. Measured the area with a gps. It was open pasture with a few trees to mow around. I was running at 1900 rpms in low 3rd gear. I was running around 4.5 mph. Fairly short grass that was mowed late last summer. Never had to touch the throttle, never backed up and mower was always in the grass until last few passes. Conditions rarely get any better than this and don't really like to go any faster than that. So under excellent conditions my best would be about 1 1/4 acres per hour. 49 hp tractor with 6' mower on wide open pasture. 4 acres per hour with a 6' mower would win the gold at the tractor Olympics and could compete with a 15'batwing To mow 4 acres per hour with a 6' bushhog, you have to mow at an average speed of 6-6.25mph. No way that's possible unless it's a manicured plantation. With 35 plots there would be stopping and turning involved.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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05/06/17 03:50 PM
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Well I have to admit y'all surely put a lot more precise effort into the calculations. I've always guestimated the average acreage. And no, I don't have 35 acres of food plots. The most I've ever had was about 10 acres. But considering my obvious flaw in guessing acreage, it might have been only 5 acres. Now, if y'all will excuse me, I'll work on getting this foot out of my mouth.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: ronfromramer]
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05/07/17 02:04 AM
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I thought Outback's estimate on time was very "ambitious". The 4 acres per hour was doubtful to me so I did a little test today. I bush hogged .9254 acres in 45 minutes. Measured the area with a gps. It was open pasture with a few trees to mow around. I was running at 1900 rpms in low 3rd gear. I was running around 4.5 mph. Fairly short grass that was mowed late last summer. Never had to touch the throttle, never backed up and mower was always in the grass until last few passes. Conditions rarely get any better than this and don't really like to go any faster than that. So under excellent conditions my best would be about 1 1/4 acres per hour. 49 hp tractor with 6' mower on wide open pasture. 4 acres per hour with a 6' mower would win the gold at the tractor Olympics and could compete with a 15'batwing Interesting that you tested it so precisely. The question I had as I read it was why such low RPM? I will often run mine at 2200 and not go all the way to the recommended pto speed, but 1900 is gonna really slow down your Bush Hog speed. Does it hurt anything to go well below pto speed? That's a question I've wondered before. I plant 10 plots over 700 acres, and depending on what kind of mood I'm in towards deer hunting when I do it, it can vary from 7 to 9 acres. What most people call an acre plot will actually run about .6 if you measure it, but I do have one 2 acre plot. My fields are much bigger; I only put part of them into deer plots. A .6 acre plot is usually more than the deer can eat back. I Bush Hog in July and it's an easy days work; less than an 8 hour day. I spray them a couple weeks later and that goes faster; maybe 6 hours. If they have been sprayed, disking actually takes less time than the Bush hogging. The actual planting will probably run 12 hours; takes a lot of time to mix the seed and fertilizer. I spend about as much time traveling between fields as working. Good luck figuring it out.
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Re: Tractor costs per acre to fall plant UPDATED!!
[Re: Antlerfluke]
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05/07/17 06:19 AM
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Fact is, I never put much thought into my average acres per hour. Never really been a need to know that. But I got to figuring how long it takes me to cut one particular field that is supposedly 15 acres. (Landowner told me that about 20 years ago) So that's how I pulled the 4 acres per hour out of my hat. I normally run 2200 to 2300 RPMs in B3 and it takes roughly 4 hours. I'm gonna defer to the majority opinion and say my original estimate was unrealistic. I guess that means our 15 acre field is evidently not 15 acres. However I'm certain that particular field is more than 8 acres, so it stands to reason that I'm obviously cutting more than 2 acres per hour. That being said, it still doesn't matter cause it still takes 4 hours to mow that field.
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