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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: Out back]
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04/17/17 02:22 PM
04/17/17 02:22 PM
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jawbone
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You oughta at least use one of your single actions and turn the Glock so its facing away from you, making a smaller target. You can probably buy up a bunch of them that melted from someone leaving one in the sun too long. I think they are pretty cheap. Glock, like Mathews Bows, are good products for some people. But they're honestly no better than many other makes, they just got a better marketing strategy. I have no real bad beef with Glock, other than not being a fan of plastic. I just get real fired up when folks start talking about giving their wife (or any novice) a Glock pistol. There's far better and safer alternatives. Anyone who carries a duty weapon will attest to the benefit of repetition training. And many of those same folks understand what can happen to your brain in a panic situation. I encourage all wives and daughters to carry a weapon and practice with that weapon. But also choose a simple, no frills, DA snub nose. Just point & click simplicity, no thinking required. Its the smartest, safest and most effective choice. Well said. It isn't about what a Glock can't do. It is about what it will do if someone doesn't know what they are doing. If there is a round in the chamber, it is going to fire if you pull the trigger. Since there is no external safety, this means every time the trigger is pulled, whether intentionally or not. Unlike a lot of handguns we grew up with, it will also fire without a magazine. Now this isn't always a bad thing, unless you've become so used to one that won't fire when the mag is dropped. Along with this, to take it down, the trigger has to be pulled, so drop the mag, pull the trigger to take it down and boom unless you've trained and had it drilled into you to rack the slide after dropping the mag. I know of several incidents of racking the slide and then dropping the magazine. Wrong order. Bad scenario. Those are not the gun's fault. That is what they were designed to do, but not everyone that owns or wants one understands and appreciates this. Again, they are great weapons for those that will take the time to learn and train with it, but it is not for everyone that thinks or claims to know about handguns.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: jawbone]
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04/17/17 02:43 PM
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bill
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You oughta at least use one of your single actions and turn the Glock so its facing away from you, making a smaller target. You can probably buy up a bunch of them that melted from someone leaving one in the sun too long. I think they are pretty cheap. Glock, like Mathews Bows, are good products for some people. But they're honestly no better than many other makes, they just got a better marketing strategy. I have no real bad beef with Glock, other than not being a fan of plastic. I just get real fired up when folks start talking about giving their wife (or any novice) a Glock pistol. There's far better and safer alternatives. Anyone who carries a duty weapon will attest to the benefit of repetition training. And many of those same folks understand what can happen to your brain in a panic situation. I encourage all wives and daughters to carry a weapon and practice with that weapon. But also choose a simple, no frills, DA snub nose. Just point & click simplicity, no thinking required. Its the smartest, safest and most effective choice. Well said. It isn't about what a Glock can't do. It is about what it will do if someone doesn't know what they are doing. If there is a round in the chamber, it is going to fire if you pull the trigger. Since there is no external safety, this means every time the trigger is pulled, whether intentionally or not. Unlike a lot of handguns we grew up with, it will also fire without a magazine. Now this isn't always a bad thing, unless you've become so used to one that won't fire when the mag is dropped. Along with this, to take it down, the trigger has to be pulled, so drop the mag, pull the trigger to take it down and boom unless you've trained and had it drilled into you to rack the slide after dropping the mag. I know of several incidents of racking the slide and then dropping the magazine. Wrong order. Bad scenario. Those are not the gun's fault. That is what they were designed to do, but not everyone that owns or wants one understands and appreciates this. Again, they are great weapons for those that will take the time to learn and train with it, but it is not for everyone that thinks or claims to know about handguns. One of the reasons I prefer the XD. Without both grip and trigger pressure the gun will not fire. The XD has also been through all of the same torture test the Glock has and held up just fine, just as I'm sure Steyr, Beretta, Sig and most other well manufactured polymer handguns would, too. The main thing is to be familiar and comfortable with whichever you choose to carry. They will all do the job intended if you do your part.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: bill]
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04/17/17 03:17 PM
04/17/17 03:17 PM
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GomerPyle
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You oughta at least use one of your single actions and turn the Glock so its facing away from you, making a smaller target. You can probably buy up a bunch of them that melted from someone leaving one in the sun too long. I think they are pretty cheap. Glock, like Mathews Bows, are good products for some people. But they're honestly no better than many other makes, they just got a better marketing strategy. I have no real bad beef with Glock, other than not being a fan of plastic. I just get real fired up when folks start talking about giving their wife (or any novice) a Glock pistol. There's far better and safer alternatives. Anyone who carries a duty weapon will attest to the benefit of repetition training. And many of those same folks understand what can happen to your brain in a panic situation. I encourage all wives and daughters to carry a weapon and practice with that weapon. But also choose a simple, no frills, DA snub nose. Just point & click simplicity, no thinking required. Its the smartest, safest and most effective choice. Well said. It isn't about what a Glock can't do. It is about what it will do if someone doesn't know what they are doing. If there is a round in the chamber, it is going to fire if you pull the trigger. Since there is no external safety, this means every time the trigger is pulled, whether intentionally or not. Unlike a lot of handguns we grew up with, it will also fire without a magazine. Now this isn't always a bad thing, unless you've become so used to one that won't fire when the mag is dropped. Along with this, to take it down, the trigger has to be pulled, so drop the mag, pull the trigger to take it down and boom unless you've trained and had it drilled into you to rack the slide after dropping the mag. I know of several incidents of racking the slide and then dropping the magazine. Wrong order. Bad scenario. Those are not the gun's fault. That is what they were designed to do, but not everyone that owns or wants one understands and appreciates this. Again, they are great weapons for those that will take the time to learn and train with it, but it is not for everyone that thinks or claims to know about handguns. One of the reasons I prefer the XD. Without both grip and trigger pressure the gun will not fire. The XD has also been through all of the same torture test the Glock has and held up just fine, just as I'm sure Steyr, Beretta, Sig and most other well manufactured polymer handguns would, too. The main thing is to be familiar and comfortable with whichever you choose to carry. They will all do the job intended if you do your part. I've almost bought an XD a couple of times buy just don't like they way they feel. Seem too top-heavy or something.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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04/17/17 04:27 PM
04/17/17 04:27 PM
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That's a great idea. Shooting Glocks. Maybe hang it on a limb and paint it red. Shoot it with my 308, for short range practice. Yeah I like that idea. You oughta at least use one of your single actions and turn the Glock so its facing away from you, making a smaller target. You can probably buy up a bunch of them that melted from someone leaving one in the sun too long. I think they are pretty cheap. I hope you don't really believe that.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: Out back]
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04/17/17 04:31 PM
04/17/17 04:31 PM
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MS_Hunter
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You oughta at least use one of your single actions and turn the Glock so its facing away from you, making a smaller target. You can probably buy up a bunch of them that melted from someone leaving one in the sun too long. I think they are pretty cheap. Glock, like Mathews Bows, are good products for some people. But they're honestly no better than many other makes, they just got a better marketing strategy. I have no real bad beef with Glock, other than not being a fan of plastic. I just get real fired up when folks start talking about giving their wife (or any novice) a Glock pistol. There's far better and safer alternatives. Anyone who carries a duty weapon will attest to the benefit of repetition training. And many of those same folks understand what can happen to your brain in a panic situation. I encourage all wives and daughters to carry a weapon and practice with that weapon. But also choose a simple, no frills, DA snub nose. Just point & click simplicity, no thinking required. Its the smartest, safest and most effective choice. Actually some of your better advice Outback. I completely agree with training with what your going to carry and training often. Any gun can be safe or dangerous in a stressful situation and most of us haven't been in that type of situation. I just don't agree with saying "x" type of gun is any more dangerous than any other. It comes down to personal preference and comfort.
In your darkest hour when the demons come, call on me brother and we'll fight them together.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: R_H_Clark]
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04/17/17 04:58 PM
04/17/17 04:58 PM
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poorcountrypreacher
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That's a great idea. Shooting Glocks. Maybe hang it on a limb and paint it red. Shoot it with my 308, for short range practice. Yeah I like that idea. You oughta at least use one of your single actions and turn the Glock so its facing away from you, making a smaller target. You can probably buy up a bunch of them that melted from someone leaving one in the sun too long. I think they are pretty cheap. I hope you don't really believe that. It was just a bad joke. But I haven't liked Glocks since I murdered a good chrony with one. Are the stories about them melting in cars just myths? The pics are out there, but they may be fake.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: 300gr]
#2090937
04/17/17 06:44 PM
04/17/17 06:44 PM
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BamaBart
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A pistol is a tool. Glocks aren't pretty but it's light, holds a lot of rounds and fires when you pull the trigger. That's all I need it to do. Lots of company have copied it's design. I would carry other stricker fired pistols and be happy but I like having so many aftermarket parts and holsters for the Glock.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: metalmessiah]
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04/17/17 07:00 PM
04/17/17 07:00 PM
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bill
Freak of Nature
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They've torture tested them at levels no 1911 would stand up to. They have ran over them with tanks and they still perform flawlessly. I don't personally care for the grip angle on the Glock but polymer frame pistols by most major manufacturers are a better choice for reliability than the 1911, in my opinion.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: 300gr]
#2090946
04/17/17 07:08 PM
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Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
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Since I'm pretty sure a tank will not be running over my side arm, I'll stick with my trusty 1911. Because I shoot a .45 I don't need 16 rounds.
Last edited by Out back; 04/17/17 07:09 PM.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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04/18/17 04:49 AM
04/18/17 04:49 AM
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Geeb
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That's a great idea. Shooting Glocks. Maybe hang it on a limb and paint it red. Shoot it with my 308, for short range practice. Yeah I like that idea. You oughta at least use one of your single actions and turn the Glock so its facing away from you, making a smaller target. You can probably buy up a bunch of them that melted from someone leaving one in the sun too long. I think they are pretty cheap. I hope you don't really believe that. It was just a bad joke. But I haven't liked Glocks since I murdered a good chrony with one. Are the stories about them melting in cars just myths? The pics are out there, but they may be fake. Had glocks in Afghanistan in some of the most extreme environmental conditions they can be put in and they performed FLAWLESSLY. Never did see one melt in those 120 degree temps, so I can't see it happening here. Jawbone, A glock will NEVER do anything without external manipulation to do so. With or without a safety, with or without a magazine, a firearm only does what it is told to do. People do need trained, but that is no different than any other pistol out there, they all have idiosyncrasy's that need to be learned before they are carried. I get that you old school guys think a revolver is the safest and most easily learned because that is what you are comfortable with, but it just isn't that way any longer. Glocks do have an external safety, it is in trigger. SOCOM went to glock 19's last year, glock's are issued by many many different countries as their primary pistol. Big army is still looking at changing their berettas for glocks. I am certain the risk vs. reward of issuing glocks was weighed heavily before the decision was made. I've personally seen quite a few ND's with Berettas, I do not believe I ever recall the pistol being the one taking the blame in any of those events.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: Geeb]
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04/18/17 05:04 AM
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Thisldu
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That's a great idea. Shooting Glocks. Maybe hang it on a limb and paint it red. Shoot it with my 308, for short range practice. Yeah I like that idea. You oughta at least use one of your single actions and turn the Glock so its facing away from you, making a smaller target. You can probably buy up a bunch of them that melted from someone leaving one in the sun too long. I think they are pretty cheap. I hope you don't really believe that. It was just a bad joke. But I haven't liked Glocks since I murdered a good chrony with one. Are the stories about them melting in cars just myths? The pics are out there, but they may be fake. Had glocks in Afghanistan in some of the most extreme environmental conditions they can be put in and they performed FLAWLESSLY. Never did see one melt in those 120 degree temps, so I can't see it happening here. Jawbone, A glock will NEVER do anything without external manipulation to do so. With or without a safety, with or without a magazine, a firearm only does what it is told to do. People do need trained, but that is no different than any other pistol out there, they all have idiosyncrasy's that need to be learned before they are carried. I get that you old school guys think a revolver is the safest and most easily learned because that is what you are comfortable with, but it just isn't that way any longer. Glocks do have an external safety, it is in trigger. SOCOM went to glock 19's last year, glock's are issued by many many different countries as their primary pistol. Big army is still looking at changing their berettas for glocks. I am certain the risk vs. reward of issuing glocks was weighed heavily before the decision was made. I've personally seen quite a few ND's with Berettas, I do not believe I ever recall the pistol being the one taking the blame in any of those events. Army just went with SIG 320's. Striker fired and basically a glock in disguise.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: Thisldu]
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04/18/17 05:15 AM
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Geeb
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That's a great idea. Shooting Glocks. Maybe hang it on a limb and paint it red. Shoot it with my 308, for short range practice. Yeah I like that idea. You oughta at least use one of your single actions and turn the Glock so its facing away from you, making a smaller target. You can probably buy up a bunch of them that melted from someone leaving one in the sun too long. I think they are pretty cheap. I hope you don't really believe that. It was just a bad joke. But I haven't liked Glocks since I murdered a good chrony with one. Are the stories about them melting in cars just myths? The pics are out there, but they may be fake. Had glocks in Afghanistan in some of the most extreme environmental conditions they can be put in and they performed FLAWLESSLY. Never did see one melt in those 120 degree temps, so I can't see it happening here. Jawbone, A glock will NEVER do anything without external manipulation to do so. With or without a safety, with or without a magazine, a firearm only does what it is told to do. People do need trained, but that is no different than any other pistol out there, they all have idiosyncrasy's that need to be learned before they are carried. I get that you old school guys think a revolver is the safest and most easily learned because that is what you are comfortable with, but it just isn't that way any longer. Glocks do have an external safety, it is in trigger. SOCOM went to glock 19's last year, glock's are issued by many many different countries as their primary pistol. Big army is still looking at changing their berettas for glocks. I am certain the risk vs. reward of issuing glocks was weighed heavily before the decision was made. I've personally seen quite a few ND's with Berettas, I do not believe I ever recall the pistol being the one taking the blame in any of those events. Army just went with SIG 320's. Striker fired and basically a glock in disguise. Yes they did, but Glock has the decision under protest.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
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04/18/17 05:19 AM
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Out back
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Old school guys. That, my friend, is a badge of honor. I've waited all my life to wear that label.
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Re: How many on here own /shoot Glocks
[Re: Out back]
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04/18/17 05:33 AM
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Geeb
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Old school guys. That, my friend, is a badge of honor. I've waited all my life to wear that label. I did not mean it as a slight. Folks are comfortable with what they know best, nothing wrong with it. However, the 'unknown' isn't necessarily 'inferior' or 'unsafe' either.
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