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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please [Re: R_H_Clark] #2079173
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Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
If you want a lightweight rifle and you are going to spend over $3k on it and don't get a Forbes... that's just dumb in my opinion. Like completely mis-informed kinda dumb and might not even know it. That's all I'm saying.

You got lots more options for a lot less money. That guarantee 1/2 MOA is probably like most other rifles MOA guarantee. Really not worth the ink it was printed with. Most people can't shoot that good even a 3 shot group and dang sure not a 5. And it ain't a heavy barrel long range rig either. I don't need 1/2 MOA to kill anything under 500 yards with a hunting rifle. I can do that with something from the local Wal-Mart.

And I can get a 1/2 out of a Savage with a good barrel so that don't impress either when it comes down to it. And I've had several Kimbers that would do under 1" and others that needed a little work to get there but all but one I have got to shoot. And they are a lot less money.

All that being said the rifle is probably a nice rifle and if you want one get it. Don't listen to us. You will probably love it.


You can also buy a very nice Cooper Excalibur for under $2000 with a 1/2 moa guarantee. The Cooper bolts don't lock on safety if that matters to you.


Coopers guarantees 1/2 MOA at 50 yards. They are great rifles for sure and I have one but they can be very picky on ammo.

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Originally Posted By: joshm28
Originally Posted By: R_H_Clark
Originally Posted By: Goatkiller
If you want a lightweight rifle and you are going to spend over $3k on it and don't get a Forbes... that's just dumb in my opinion. Like completely mis-informed kinda dumb and might not even know it. That's all I'm saying.

You got lots more options for a lot less money. That guarantee 1/2 MOA is probably like most other rifles MOA guarantee. Really not worth the ink it was printed with. Most people can't shoot that good even a 3 shot group and dang sure not a 5. And it ain't a heavy barrel long range rig either. I don't need 1/2 MOA to kill anything under 500 yards with a hunting rifle. I can do that with something from the local Wal-Mart.

And I can get a 1/2 out of a Savage with a good barrel so that don't impress either when it comes down to it. And I've had several Kimbers that would do under 1" and others that needed a little work to get there but all but one I have got to shoot. And they are a lot less money.

All that being said the rifle is probably a nice rifle and if you want one get it. Don't listen to us. You will probably love it.


You can also buy a very nice Cooper Excalibur for under $2000 with a 1/2 moa guarantee. The Cooper bolts don't lock on safety if that matters to you.


Coopers guarantees 1/2 MOA at 50 yards. They are great rifles for sure and I have one but they can be very picky on ammo.


According to them it's 1/2 moa at 100 yards. The confusion may be in that their enclosed test targets are shot at somewhere around 50 yards.
http://cooperfirearms.com/about-us/cooper-history

Like you ,I don't put much confidence in accuracy guarantees and all rifles have negatives of some kind. It is however a little bit of insurance if you get a lemon. You might send a rifle into a lot of manufacturers that wouldn't do better than 3 moa at 100 yards only to have them tell you the rifle shoots in spec to their standards.

Josh
You have way too many really nice rifles,the kind I like. We need to get together some time so you can let me shoot some of them.lol

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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please [Re: limabean] #2079376
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Fierce is just another one of the semi-production custom rifle builders that have popped up over the past few years. While the big companies have started staking out the low end of the market with budget priced bolt actions, dozens of these companies have opened up to sell rifles at a higher price point. I agree with Goatkiller that many of these companies will go under in the next few years.

I know someone who bought a Fierce last year and he called me right after the first shot and said there was a problem. Shot it at night and played me a video of the shot which showed huge sparks flying in all directions and I was told the sound was very odd. After a lot of head scratching we figured out that the problem was that some dimwit at Fierce had screwed a 7 mm muzzle brake onto his 30-378 Weatherby! Needed a hammer to open the bolt. Took it back to the store and there were more problems after that in getting the rifle replaced.

These rifles are a Christensen knock-off. Good guns but i'm not a fan of carbon wrapped barrels and really light rifles for over-bore magnums as a long range gun. I hate muzzle brakes. For a long range gun I like some weight and a heavy barrel. JMHO

Like Goat said, there are a few custom builders here in Alabama that will build as good and probably better gun for a lesser price. I know a store manager who sells Fierce, MOA and other "semi-custom" guns and he has John Gallagher build his rifles. That should tell you something about these guns.


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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please [Re: limabean] #2079431
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What's your budget? I bet I could build you a savage that would shoot 1/4" groups for less than $800 including a new trigger.

It won't be the prettiest gun in your safe but dang they can be accurate with very little work. Here is my its recent build. It's a shooter and I love the new Burris XTR ii scope.

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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please [Re: limabean] #2079647
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That turned out good Josh. I personally have never been a fan of the Savages. I know they are shooters, but I just think they're ugly. To each their own. I am a sucker for Rems. Is what it is. I also agree that there are several VERY good gunsmiths in Alabama that can build you a rifle that will meet your expectations for likely less than one of the big custom shops. They are in the business of building custom rifles. Call them and discuss what you want in a rifle.

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Thanks guys for all the information. I have wanted a NULA for a long time but have a hard time spending that much on one rifle but I think I'm at that point. I have spent way over the cost of one trying to get what I want. What caliber would you recommend for hunting deer here in Alabama? I'm not really sensitive to recoil but don't think it would be fun to shoot a NULA in a magnum cartridge. By the way anyone on here got a NULA that would be willing to let me shoot? I've never handled one so that another reason why I'm hesitant to put that much money in one. Thanks again.

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280 would be a first choice for me, or 308 for hunting deer in bama.

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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please [Re: limabean] #2079861
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Originally Posted By: limabean
Thanks guys for all the information. I have wanted a NULA for a long time but have a hard time spending that much on one rifle but I think I'm at that point. I have spent way over the cost of one trying to get what I want. What caliber would you recommend for hunting deer here in Alabama? I'm not really sensitive to recoil but don't think it would be fun to shoot a NULA in a magnum cartridge. By the way anyone on here got a NULA that would be willing to let me shoot? I've never handled one so that another reason why I'm hesitant to put that much money in one. Thanks again.


I've considered getting one myself. I would probably choose a 7mm-08.I have the Forbes 24b that you are welcome to shoot if you are ever up near Haleyville. I also have a Kimber Montana in 7mm-08. The Forbes fits me much better.

I think no matter which caliber you get you want the stock to fit you.For instance,if I bought a model 20 NULA ,I would want the stock the same size as my model 24 Nula. Another thought is that the model 24 NULA might be a better fit for me,being such a big guy than the model 20 even if the LOP on the 20 was adjusted. The action is shorter on the model 20 and the balance would be different.

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