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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
[Re: limabean]
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Don't sound like much to them. Other than a cool name as a selling point.
If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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All I know is they are spensive. I'm looking for a hunting rifle that will shoot sub moa more consistent than not. Don't mind paying more but don't want to pay more for looks or a fancy name. Tikka will do that. First thing is to decide what's most important to you and then start looking based on that. A rifle that shoots sub moa more often than not is a rather wide criteria.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
[Re: limabean]
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Save yourself some money and buy a tikka or range certified weatherby. If you reload you can obtain less than moa with many factory rifles.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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04/03/17 12:25 PM
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limabean, i held one last fall. It was the carbon barrel, chambered in 300 win mag. No telling what the retail on that rifle was. Another guy in same party had a christenson arms 300 WSM that was just as nice.
If you get one, post up some pics and a review.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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04/04/17 04:04 AM
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Here is just something to chew on... at the Shot Show I looked around and even more this year than in previous years I was literally shocked at the rifle and AR builders that were there. It has gotten ridiculous. If you go by the booth and see they have on some tactical cargo pants and shirts you stop and start asking them questions like drop one about a common cartridge take a 243 and ask them about building a varmint rifle.
They don't have any idea what you are talking about. You ask them about a Norma Magnum or start talking about a 7x57 and they got no idea. Literally look like they swallowed a turd trying to come up with something to say but they got nothing.
This is my opinion, but all these fly by night AR builders and Custom "Sniper" rifle builders are about to be out of business. Gun sales are WAY WAY down under Trump. That's a fact that is going to be in place for the next several years and hopefully longer. We hoarded under the last president at an unprecedented level. This cycle has played itself out before under Clinton then Bush and back to Obama, etc.
Plenty of Gun Smiths in state that can build a rifle. JP Precision, John Gallagher, plenty of others. They know what they are doing. Know the rifle sand know the cartridges.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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Savage will do it too. I have a couple with custom barrels that shoot less than .5" groups at a hundred. Half that if I do my part. limabean, i held one last fall. It was the carbon barrel, chambered in 300 win mag. No telling what the retail on that rifle was. Another guy in same party had a christenson arms 300 WSM that was just as nice.
If you get one, post up some pics and a review. I have a savage with a Shilen barrel that will stay under a half inch easily and will also stay in the 2's if I do my part. Well under 1k in just the rifle.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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04/04/17 05:28 AM
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All I know is they are spensive. I'm looking for a hunting rifle that will shoot sub moa more consistent than not. Don't mind paying more but don't want to pay more for looks or a fancy name. Not specific to your question but I'll put this out there. I've been looking for my perfect rifle for about 15 years. I've tried a bunch of rifles up to about $1500.Admittedly,I've not owned any full custom rifles.My opinion however is that before you start dropping in excess of 3K on a rifle you need to know what specific attributes you want in that rifle,even right down to safety style,specific trigger,stock style,target weight,type action,type extraction,basically everything you prefer. Even then,any rifle you buy will be a compromise on your specific desires. I would suggest you visit some ranges,join a gun club,visit some rifle builders,basically get your hands on and shoot everything different that you can to figure out exactly what you want. For me,my latest favorite is a Forbes 24b. it's a little larger and heavier than my Kimber Montana which makes it fit me better and makes it easier to shoot well than the lighter Kimber. Light weight has become one of my primary concerns and the Forbes in not a heavy gun at all being just under 6 lbs in a long action but the 14 ounces more than the Kimber makes it an easier gun to shootwell while still being plenty light. I've owned Remington's,Sako's,Winchesters, Savages,but my favorite so far is the Forbes. If I were to start this 15 year journey over,I would order a model 24 NULA from Melvin Forbes. I may still sell some guns and buy one but I was fortunate enough to find one of the first Forbes made that Melvin actually built,so it shoots 1/2 moa and even under more often than not. Good luck on your search.Sorry I don't know specifically about the Fierce Edge rifles.I would however highly recommend a NULA. At least do some research.You will see a lot of very happy customers.More than 75% of Melvin's business is repeat customers,which says a lot,and Melvin is getting older,so that's something to consider as well.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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The only thing I would add would be if you get one built by someone like Forbes then it will always be worth what you paid for it.. maybe more than you paid for it at some point if you keep it in nice shape and treat it well.
Others that will hold good value would be something like a Chistensen, Cooper, Dakota, GA Precision, Jarrett I could go on. But those won't necessarily hold like a NULA I think will. When Melvin is gone those will be coveted rifles.
On the flip side... You get one that Tactical Timmy built and in a couple years nobody will know/remember which flavor of the month built it or really care. You'll have a $1k used rifle.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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04/04/17 07:03 AM
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The only thing I would add would be if you get one built by someone like Forbes then it will always be worth what you paid for it.. maybe more than you paid for it at some point if you keep it in nice shape and treat it well.
Others that will hold good value would be something like a Chistensen, Cooper, Dakota, GA Precision, Jarrett I could go on. But those won't necessarily hold like a NULA I think will. When Melvin is gone those will be coveted rifles.
On the flip side... You get one that Tactical Timmy built and in a couple years nobody will know/remember which flavor of the month built it or really care. You'll have a $1k used rifle. Great point there! Spending $3500 plus,I would sure want a very well known name with a long history for just that reason.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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If you really like that,personally I would buy one of these first. http://www.eurooptic.com/sako-85-synthetic-black-308-win-jrs1c16.aspxChances are that it will shoot very nearly if not just as good.You can always add a McMillan Edge stock later if it shoots good and still be a lot less money. If it doesn't shoot like you want you can sell it for darn close to what you paid,especially if EuroOptic runs out of them.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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If you really like that,personally I would buy one of these first. http://www.eurooptic.com/sako-85-synthetic-black-308-win-jrs1c16.aspxChances are that it will shoot very nearly if not just as good.You can always add a McMillan Edge stock later if it shoots good and still be a lot less money. If it doesn't shoot like you want you can sell it for darn close to what you paid,especially if EuroOptic runs out of them. I know there's a lot of love for tikka/sako on here and for good reason. I'm not a fan. The two I've shot were not MOA rifles for me. I know that's sacrilege around here but it is what it is. I didn't want to leave you with the impression that I was in the market either. I was impressed with the one I held last fall, that's all I can say.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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04/04/17 08:22 AM
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If you really like that,personally I would buy one of these first. http://www.eurooptic.com/sako-85-synthetic-black-308-win-jrs1c16.aspxChances are that it will shoot very nearly if not just as good.You can always add a McMillan Edge stock later if it shoots good and still be a lot less money. If it doesn't shoot like you want you can sell it for darn close to what you paid,especially if EuroOptic runs out of them. I know there's a lot of love for tikka/sako on here and for good reason. I'm not a fan. The two I've shot were not MOA rifles for me. I know that's sacrilege around here but it is what it is. I didn't want to leave you with the impression that I was in the market either. I was impressed with the one I held last fall, that's all I can say. I only mention it because the Fierce Edge is basically a Sako 85. I've owned 4 Sako's and all were less than moa rifles. Being factory rifles results may vari but they are guaranteed sub moa for 5 shots,though Beretta CS is very spotty.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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04/04/17 09:07 AM
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If you want a lightweight rifle and you are going to spend over $3k on it and don't get a Forbes... that's just dumb in my opinion. Like completely mis-informed kinda dumb and might not even know it. That's all I'm saying.
You got lots more options for a lot less money. That guarantee 1/2 MOA is probably like most other rifles MOA guarantee. Really not worth the ink it was printed with. Most people can't shoot that good even a 3 shot group and dang sure not a 5. And it ain't a heavy barrel long range rig either. I don't need 1/2 MOA to kill anything under 500 yards with a hunting rifle. I can do that with something from the local Wal-Mart.
And I can get a 1/2 out of a Savage with a good barrel so that don't impress either when it comes down to it. And I've had several Kimbers that would do under 1" and others that needed a little work to get there but all but one I have got to shoot. And they are a lot less money.
All that being said the rifle is probably a nice rifle and if you want one get it. Don't listen to us. You will probably love it.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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04/04/17 09:31 AM
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If you want a lightweight rifle and you are going to spend over $3k on it and don't get a Forbes... that's just dumb in my opinion. Like completely mis-informed kinda dumb and might not even know it. That's all I'm saying.
You got lots more options for a lot less money. That guarantee 1/2 MOA is probably like most other rifles MOA guarantee. Really not worth the ink it was printed with. Most people can't shoot that good even a 3 shot group and dang sure not a 5. And it ain't a heavy barrel long range rig either. I don't need 1/2 MOA to kill anything under 500 yards with a hunting rifle. I can do that with something from the local Wal-Mart.
And I can get a 1/2 out of a Savage with a good barrel so that don't impress either when it comes down to it. And I've had several Kimbers that would do under 1" and others that needed a little work to get there but all but one I have got to shoot. And they are a lot less money.
All that being said the rifle is probably a nice rifle and if you want one get it. Don't listen to us. You will probably love it. Just for clarity there is no more "Forbes". That company was Melvin Forbes second attempt to mass produce his custom NULA. The Forbes company is out of business. I own a Forbes but only because I had inside info on the serial number,that it was an early enough model to be built by Melvin himself. Melvin tried to teach Forbes employs how to build his rifle and stock. It didn't take them long to fail miserably in both quality and customer service,which is why they went bankrupt. You can buy a custom NULA from Melvin. They start at about $3400. I was told $1000 down and 9 months to delivery not long ago.
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Re: Fierce Edge rifle opinions please
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If you want a lightweight rifle and you are going to spend over $3k on it and don't get a Forbes... that's just dumb in my opinion. Like completely mis-informed kinda dumb and might not even know it. That's all I'm saying.
You got lots more options for a lot less money. That guarantee 1/2 MOA is probably like most other rifles MOA guarantee. Really not worth the ink it was printed with. Most people can't shoot that good even a 3 shot group and dang sure not a 5. And it ain't a heavy barrel long range rig either. I don't need 1/2 MOA to kill anything under 500 yards with a hunting rifle. I can do that with something from the local Wal-Mart.
And I can get a 1/2 out of a Savage with a good barrel so that don't impress either when it comes down to it. And I've had several Kimbers that would do under 1" and others that needed a little work to get there but all but one I have got to shoot. And they are a lot less money.
All that being said the rifle is probably a nice rifle and if you want one get it. Don't listen to us. You will probably love it. You can also buy a very nice Cooper Excalibur for under $2000 with a 1/2 moa guarantee. The Cooper bolts don't lock on safety if that matters to you.
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