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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: pcamper]
#2063617
03/20/17 06:12 AM
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seminole1
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When will they vote on this to make it final or not? Is there a specific date that this will become law or be dropped?
Go Noles and Roll Tide!
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: pcamper]
#2063680
03/20/17 07:12 AM
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Todd1700
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Exactly mman. Anybody that isn't running deer down barefooted with a spear wearing nothing but a loin cloth needs to seriously climb doubt off their high horse.
The best index to a person’s character is (a) how he treats people who can’t do him any good, and (b) how he treats people who can’t fight back. - Abigail van Buren
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: Hogwild]
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03/20/17 08:30 AM
03/20/17 08:30 AM
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WmHunter
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Actually it is a well written, well reasoned article with a lot of good and valid points.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: WmHunter]
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03/20/17 08:36 AM
03/20/17 08:36 AM
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Hogwild
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Actually it is a well written, well reasoned article with a lot of good and valid points.
I suppose if the criteria is 'Does it agree with my OPINION?', that argument could be made.
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: pcamper]
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03/20/17 09:12 AM
03/20/17 09:12 AM
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ElkHunter
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I am against it for hunting. I am for it for killing pigs. Notice I said killing and not hunting on the pigs. Hog control is not a sport. It is all about reducing numbers as hard and as fast as you can.
Alabama Hog Control, Inc. www.alabamahogcontrol.comBarry Estes The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: WmHunter]
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03/20/17 10:02 AM
03/20/17 10:02 AM
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Actually it is a well written, well reasoned article with a lot of good and valid points.
Valid points??? It is very illogical according to my logic machine. CWD - Not found in Alabama or any southeastern state that I am aware of. It's a wonder there is a deer left in Texas since they have found CWD there and baiting is the norm. They also have anthrax. Wait, Texas has a LOT of deer. Why haven't the predators and disease including CWD decimated the Texas population of deer???? If you believe this article, you have to be against any and all supplemental feeding because, CWD and predators don't know the difference in a bait pile and supplemental feed. You can pour out all the corn/feed you want now as long as you don't hunt over it or hunt within the current regulations yet if baiting is allowed, somehow CWD and predators will become a major problem. That makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!!! Also the statement, "It’d just be a massacre with no true fair chase" is just delusional. I guarantee you that if you start killing everything you see, if on a food plot, bait pile, white oak flat, or any other place, the deer will stop using it during daylight hours and maybe all together. It either ought to be totally legal and let people choose whether want to do it or not or it should be illegal with consequences so sever that nobody will do it. The way it is now, with ambiguous language, is ridiculous. And Clem, sometimes it's fun to beat a dead horse
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: mman]
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03/20/17 10:41 AM
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jawbone
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[quote=WmHunter]
CWD - Not found in Alabama or any southeastern state that I am aware of. It's a wonder there is a deer left in Texas since they have found CWD there and baiting is the norm. They also have anthrax. Wait, Texas has a LOT of deer. Why haven't the predators and disease including CWD decimated the Texas population of deer???? An acquaintance of mine that leases a big ranch in West Texas lost 95% of his deer herd to Anthrax one year. it didn't affect the whole state, but that doesn't make Edward feel any better. Oh, BTW, they hunt over corn feeders on that ranch almost exclusively.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: timbercruiser]
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03/20/17 03:34 PM
03/20/17 03:34 PM
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I'll admit I don't know very much about anthrax, but I Googled it and one thing stood out to me, "The bacterium normally rest in endospore form in the soil, and can survive for decades in this state. Herbivores are often infected whilst grazing." Did the anthrax come from the corn or was it in the soil and the deer grazed something and got the spores? What I know about it comes from studying, in very general terms, possible bioterrorism weapons. The spores are inhaled into an animal when it has its nose close to the ground. The spores multiply in the animal and then are exhaled onto the ground where the animal is feeding. From what I understand, the closer the animal's nose is to the ground, and the more animals that are in a certain small area, the more likely the disease will spread. Apparently it has to be in a pretty concentrated area to spread in epidemic form. This is why it is more likely to be spread at a feeder or corn pile than deer eating browse or in a food plot.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: pcamper]
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03/20/17 03:42 PM
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Gotcha1
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If people want corn. Plant corn.
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: jawbone]
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03/21/17 01:04 AM
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I'll admit I don't know very much about anthrax, but I Googled it and one thing stood out to me, "The bacterium normally rest in endospore form in the soil, and can survive for decades in this state. Herbivores are often infected whilst grazing." Did the anthrax come from the corn or was it in the soil and the deer grazed something and got the spores? What I know about it comes from studying, in very general terms, possible bioterrorism weapons. The spores are inhaled into an animal when it has its nose close to the ground. The spores multiply in the animal and then are exhaled onto the ground where the animal is feeding. From what I understand, the closer the animal's nose is to the ground, and the more animals that are in a certain small area, the more likely the disease will spread. Apparently it has to be in a pretty concentrated area to spread in epidemic form. This is why it is more likely to be spread at a feeder or corn pile than deer eating browse or in a food plot. Anthrax occurs naturally in the soil in some areas. That is a problem usually associated with Texas. Even so, Texas still has a huge population of deer. As you pointed out, it can be devastating in local populations. Alabama does not have that problem. So, we don't have CWD or Anthrax. My point is that even if we (Alabama) are trying to protect our deer herd from CWD or Anthrax (both of which are not an issue here - It is like trying to protect our deer herd from Bengal tigers), then ALL supplemental feeding MUST stop. Why would a supplemental feeding station be any more susceptible to CWD or predators that a baiting station? It wouldn't. The things listed in the article are non-issues for Alabama, therefore irrelevant. If it passes, I would rather someone just say, I am not going to hunt over food that I put out for deer because I don't like to hunt that way, and just leave it at that, rather than point to things like CWD and predators as a "reason" or say, anybody that doesn't hunt like I do is stupid.
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: Gotcha1]
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03/21/17 08:26 PM
03/21/17 08:26 PM
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Fun4all
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If people want corn. Plant corn. Seems like that is dang hard to figure out!!
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: bigt]
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03/22/17 11:34 AM
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centralala
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If people want corn. Plant corn. Seems like that is dang hard to figure out!! What do you plant to grow protein pellets ? I've said over and over and will say one more time, I don't care if it becomes legal or not. I don't hunt over bait now or will in the future but if someone else does, it just didn't bother me. But I am realistic. If made legal, what percent of feeders do people think will have other than corn?? My guess is 2%. That's 98% corn. What percent of these feeders will continue to be filled from Feb 10 thru say Oct 1? My guess is 2% again....the same 2% with other than corn.
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Re: Baiting now Legal?
[Re: pcamper]
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03/22/17 12:05 PM
03/22/17 12:05 PM
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Posts: 36,238 alabama
BhamFred
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count me in that 2% and NODAMNSTICKER.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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