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No, you didn't.

The quality or nature of the bait has no bearing on the skill or knowledge required to hunt over it. And you nor anyone else on the anti baiting side has even attempted to explain how climbing into a shooting house over a green patch requires any more knowledge, skill, or effort than climbing into one overlooking a feeder. Yet people who would hunt over a feeder, if legalized, are called lazy, ignorant, slob hunters while people who hunt green patches are not.

Men with an ounce of integrity would concede the point and stop characterizing an entire group of people in a way that is both unfair and hypocritically inconsistent just because you disagree with them about a hunting regulation.

So you think that it takes the same amount of work and investment of time and money to dump a bag of corn out as it does to plant a food plot that yields greater benefits to all wildlife? For some of us the actual shooting is the anti-climatic part of hunting. It is the overall experience that matters.

So, yes, I think that is a lazy ass way to hunt, but if that is your way, when it becomes illegal, knock yourself out, but I will never consider you a true sportsman.

Y'all are all guilty of debating rhetorical points on the extreme ends of both spectrums.

What about the guy that wants to do all he can for the wildlife? But, he also wants to hunt! Many are limited to 1/2 to 3/4 acre food plots on the properties they hunt. They place a good mineral lick on the edge of the plot and a gravity feeder full of a high-quality deer feed by it. Under the current Regulations, a simple matter of a matter of feet and inches, or Seasonal foliage could make the difference between this guy being a good deer manager or a lowly poacher. But, he is the same guy doing the same thing either way!

We plant patches on our land. About 14 a year. We also feed the deer with feeders. It takes more time, effort, and money to keep the feeders working and full year round than it does to plant the patches. I don't know where this perception comes from that it's some legendary herculean task to plant a friggin green patch. Simplest most low maintenance thing in the world. But hey knock yourself out. Whatever you need to bulls##t and delude yourself with to feel like you are a superior hunter. I mean it truly takes a master hunter to work the latch on a shooting house door in a green patch. And don't even get me started on the woodsmanship and skill required to deal with those plexiglass shooting house windows. LOL!

I love this topic ! Yall keep up there good debate.

I don't have anything to add , just helping push it to 20 pages.

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I think we should outlaw those deer crossing signs. Its dangerous to encourage deer to cross a busy road.

I like a food plot with a feed trough in the middle of it.

Chewbacca is a wooki dat lives on the planet indo. Why in the hell do Chewbacca want to live with a bunch of 3 foot tall wookis?

You would have to combine all four of my plots just to get more than a quarter acre.

Jawbone, you might as well try to reason with a rock. As Ron White says "you can't fix stupid"

and you just insulted a rock....

I just hope it is legalized so as many people as can will start feeding corn around my lease and pull every dang bear off my property

Translation: We cannot answer his questions. We cannot explain how hunting a green patch requires any more skill than hunting a feeder. So lets just hurl a baseless insult and act like we won the debate.

Why? Cause you ain't got s##t else you can say. There is no case to be made that one of those activities requires any more knowledge or skill than the other. If there was you would make it.

You got that part right but just aimed in the wrong direction. I'm starting to think there were some short buses involved in a few of yalls high school years.

Baiting is for lazy hunters. That is for certain!!! Also, most hunters ARE lazy. I firmly believe that hunting should be as difficult as possible. Scopes are for sissies. Firearms, who needs them? I'll tell you who uses a gun, only lazy hunters who can't get themselves close enough to a deer to kill it with a stick and string. Any skilled outdoorsman doesn't need "cams" or training wheels on a bow to kill a deer. Many many deer have been killed by true sportsmen by just using a hand made long bow and hand made arrows with pointy rocks tied on the end. Actually, a bow may be too much of an advantage for the true outdoorsman, and maybe he should be limited to hunting with spears, knives and rocks.

Lazy hunters use treestands. That's way too much of an advantage. We should hunt on the ground and use our woodsman's skills, abilities and knowledge to track down and kill a deer.

Hunting any food source is also lame and the lazy hunter's approach. Why sit and wait for a deer to come to you when you can go after the deer on foot? I don't care if it is a man made food source or natural, it's still a lazy way to hunt. That is no more sporting than shooting bison on the plains or fish in a barrel.

Don't get me started on shooting houses, especially those with heaters and windows. That's no way to hunt. Talk about lazy and requiring no skill. You go sit in a comfortable shooting house with comfortable chairs, eat snacks all morning while drinking coffee, all while trying to decide which deer to shoot. There should be a box attached to the ladder so you can drop your man card in before climbing up.

Hunters are only true sportsman if I declare them to be so. But hey, if you want to be lazy and use a scoped rifle, a treestand, compound or crossbow, a shooting house, or even bait, as long as it is legal, then go for it, you lazy bums.

My point is that however we choose to hunt, it won't fit everyone at every point along their hunting journey. Some people chose to limit themselves more than others. If you don't want to use a gun, don't. If you choose not to use a treestand, good for you. If you don't want to use food sources (natural, manmade, or store bought), don't. If you choose not to use binoculars, grunt calls, rattling antlers, rangefinders, camo, scents, scent blocker clothing, ozonics, or whatever else that "may" improve your odds, then don't.

IMHO, baiting will not be an effective way to consistently kill mature bucks for many people. The same can be said of food plots. Deer are smart and adapt. Killing mature deer will never be consistently easy in most places.

Here are some canned responses in case you can't think of anything intelligent to say:

1) You're dumber than a rock
2) You're an idiot
3) Your Mama



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