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Game Warden Question #206324
10/24/11 11:01 AM
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Just got back from my place in Alabama to put in food plots and found out to my dismay that my "neighbor" who has a total of 4 acres surrounded on all four sides by my farm(320 acres) has a new shooting house in his backyard and has the back acre planted in corn, soybeans and grain strips. Looks like something out of a QDMA magazine. Anyway, since I am not to keen on him spending the next few months shooting the deer I spend a lot of time and money on I have about concluded I am gonna have to do something about it. One option is to high fence around his property which I don't have time for or want to spend the money on. Option two is to put feeders out on my property near his line. I can put two feeders up within 50 yards of his stand and not impact my hunting at all.

So my question for the game warden is if the corn is within 50 yards of his stand, the feeder is clearly visible from his stand and I make him aware of the fact it is there, will he be legally hunting over bait even though the bait is not on his property?

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206332
10/24/11 11:10 AM
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Why would you do such a thing??
You have 320 acres and worried bout some local hunting his 4???
I don't get it.


"As the deer panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee"


Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206336
10/24/11 11:17 AM
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Wow! Really! So that guy spends the time to make his 4 acres the best he can and gets punished by his neighbor because he thinks he is stealing the deer or something. C'mon now.

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206340
10/24/11 11:23 AM
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In my humble opinion, if he did that, BradB should be charged with 9-11-270, Interference with persons legally hunting or fishing.

http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/acas/CodeOfAlabama/1975/9-11-270.htm


There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter.
Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206341
10/24/11 11:26 AM
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so, let me get this thing straight in my head, you have 320 acres and spend your money to improve your land and your neighbor has 4 acres and he spends his money to improve his land, but because you have more land you think you are entitled to stoop to underhanded deeds such as putting out feeders 50 yards from his stand, to stop him from hunting his own property. Shame on you!

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: Valleyhunter106] #206343
10/24/11 11:28 AM
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Brad B,
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... So my question for the game warden is if the corn is within 50 yards of his stand, the feeder is clearly visible from his stand and I make him aware of the fact it is there, will he be legally hunting over bait even though the bait is not on his property?


In Alabama, the affected "area" remains undefined even though it is several years after a previous DCNR commissioner, a WFF director, and a DCNR enforcement section chief promised a judge that they would come up with a defintion of "area".

If the game warden sees your feeder, he may very well rely on his own discretion and declare your whole little farm as being within the affected "area". You weren't planning to hunt there were you?

If so, you need to ask for a depredation baiting permit so the game warden will turn his head while you hunt over bait but charge your neighbor with violating the law for "hunting over bait without the DCNR's permission" [btw: I can't cite that law because there ain't one]. He may very well require you to leave the deer to rot in your fields as a condition of using the permit though.

Any questions? grin

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206346
10/24/11 11:32 AM
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He has more rights to the deer than you because he is a resident of Alabama. Sounds like he is helping the deer more than you. You are just interested in planting "Kill Plots". Maybe he should run you off.


doecommander out...........................



Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206349
10/24/11 11:39 AM
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Brad B,
If I owned that 4 acres and I worked my tail off to make it the best it can be and you pulled that crap then you would not be able to hunt your 320 acres legally again due to the amount of yellow acorns that would show up on your place followed by the Alabama Game Wardens. There are a lot more dark nights that you are not able to get up to this state than when you can. Get real the man is legal so leave it alone.

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: doecommander] #206350
10/24/11 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: doecommander
He has more rights to the deer than you because he is a resident of Alabama. Sounds like he is helping the deer more than you. You are just interested in planting "Kill Plots". Maybe he should run you off.


Maybe the deer are coming across the line from FL too!! Then what??

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: RCHRR] #206351
10/24/11 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: RCHRR
Brad B,
If I owned that 4 acres and I worked my tail off to make it the best it can be and you pulled that crap then you would not be able to hunt your 320 acres legally again due to the amount of yellow acorns that would show up on your place followed by the Alabama Game Wardens. There are a lot more dark nights that you are not able to get up to this state than when you can. Get real the man is legal so leave it alone.


Well said. thumbup thumbup


doecommander out...........................



Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206352
10/24/11 11:41 AM
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This is deer jealousy. I hate it.

According to your thought process those are "your" deer just because you own more land. RIDICULOUS!


"In Alabama, we prefer to kill small bucks on big properties"-Turkey247
Re: Game Warden Question [Re: 49er] #206353
10/24/11 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted By: 49er
Originally Posted By: doecommander
He has more rights to the deer than you because he is a resident of Alabama. Sounds like he is helping the deer more than you. You are just interested in planting "Kill Plots". Maybe he should run you off.


Maybe the deer are coming across the line from FL too!! Then what??


Smart Azz laughup


doecommander out...........................



Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206354
10/24/11 11:43 AM
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I would have to say this post has bothered me more than anything I have ever read on here!

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206357
10/24/11 11:48 AM
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Why not just hunt the trails in and out of his place instead of keeping him from hunting his own land. You could benefit from his work as well as him.


It is what it is.

Inspect what you Expect.

Hunting TN, AL, KY, and IL.
Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206362
10/24/11 11:51 AM
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If the neighbor were actually doing something illegal, (i.e. killing deer over bait on his 4 acres, or killing deer at night on his 4 acres) then you might have something to go with. If he isn't this is a sickening post. sick

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206374
10/24/11 12:15 PM
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Being an absentee land owner , might be a good idea to get along with the guy. Talk to him ,he may be OK. By him planting that stuff he's prolly straight up. If he weren't he could hunt your place when you were back in Fl. no need to wait till they got onto his property. Like Matt said,^^^^^^^^^, until the guy does something illegal, get over it. crazy



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Re: Game Warden Question [Re: Valleyhunter106] #206375
10/24/11 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Valleyhunter106
I would have to say this post has bothered me more than anything I have ever read on here!


I see you're relatively new to aldeer.com.
It gets better than this sometimes. grin

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: BradB] #206380
10/24/11 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: BradB
Just got back from my place in Alabama to put in food plots and found out to my dismay that my "neighbor" who has a total of 4 acres surrounded on all four sides by my farm(320 acres) has a new shooting house in his backyard and has the back acre planted in corn, soybeans and grain strips. Looks like something out of a QDMA magazine. Anyway, since I am not to keen on him spending the next few months shooting the deer I spend a lot of time and money on I have about concluded I am gonna have to do something about it. One option is to high fence around his property which I don't have time for or want to spend the money on. Option two is to put feeders out on my property near his line. I can put two feeders up within 50 yards of his stand and not impact my hunting at all.

So my question for the game warden is if the corn is within 50 yards of his stand, the feeder is clearly visible from his stand and I make him aware of the fact it is there, will he be legally hunting over bait even though the bait is not on his property?


This is EXACTLTY what is wrong with hunting today. This putz thinks he is entitled to kill deer that he "spent a lot of time and money on". Do us all a favor and spend your time and money on your Florida deer. We don't need hunters with this attitude in Alabama.

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: Sparky] #206386
10/24/11 12:28 PM
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Dang!!

Do I hear echoes from dog hunters and non-qdm hunters and buck limit arguments being resurected? This argument sounds familiar for some reason.

Re: Game Warden Question [Re: todd w] #206388
10/24/11 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: todd w
Why not just hunt the trails in and out of his place instead of keeping him from hunting his own land. You could benefit from his work as well as him.

X2 VERY GOOD POST Todd thats exactly what I would do.


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