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Re: end of days... [Re: WmHunter] #2060217
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Originally Posted By: WmHunter
The Bible has all the signs and things to look for.

A real big one is the 2nd restoration of Israel.
That took place in 1948.

Another is the restored Israel being surrounded by enemies that will try to wipe her off the map. That has happened back in 1948, 1967 early 70s and continuing.

Other big symptoms are increase in knowledge and technology.
Rushing to and fro upon the earth (planes, trains, cars, etc.)
Increasing global government.
Increasing global apostasy.

In a sense, the U.S. is kind of a limit test in the sense that we are one of the last places on Earth that Satan does not have total control.


Help me out here because I'm far from a biblical expert, but I had a Sunday School teacher as a young adult that really studied this hard and he always said that the final sign was when The Temple on the Mount was rebuilt. Thoughts from anyone with knowledge in this area and I know some of you are pretty knowledgeable on biblical matters?


Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
Re: end of days... [Re: jawbone] #2060231
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Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: WmHunter
The Bible has all the signs and things to look for.

A real big one is the 2nd restoration of Israel.
That took place in 1948.

Another is the restored Israel being surrounded by enemies that will try to wipe her off the map. That has happened back in 1948, 1967 early 70s and continuing.

Other big symptoms are increase in knowledge and technology.
Rushing to and fro upon the earth (planes, trains, cars, etc.)
Increasing global government.
Increasing global apostasy.

In a sense, the U.S. is kind of a limit test in the sense that we are one of the last places on Earth that Satan does not have total control.


Help me out here because I'm far from a biblical expert, but I had a Sunday School teacher as a young adult that really studied this hard and he always said that the final sign was when The Temple on the Mount was rebuilt. Thoughts from anyone with knowledge in this area and I know some of you are pretty knowledgeable on biblical matters?



During the 7 year Tribulation Era (also known as the 70th Week of Daniel), which is broken down into two 3.5 year time periods, the 3rd Temple will be built, pursuant to a 7 year peace treaty negotiated between Israel and the Muslim nations. The Antichrist is probably the negotiator of that treaty.

So, technically, the End Times or "End of the World" is that 7 year time period.

The first half is called the "tribulation" and also "the beginning of sorrows."

At the mid point the Antichrist sets up some false idol of himself in the 3rd rebuilt temple and/or proclaims himself to be god (which putting an idol of himself would also be doing) and then the real big crapper begins - the second half of the Trib Era called the "Great Tribulation."


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

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So the further in time we go the closer to that
70th Week of Daniel era we get. And the Bible has a lot of signs about that that I mentioned above.

Most prophecy scholars/students see the Ezekiel 38-39 war happening some time before, or shortly before, the 7 Year Tribulation.

Even right now the Ezekiel 38 war seems to be shaping up on the horizon. But no one knows for sure. But there can be no doubt the nations referred to in Ez. 38, which are the Muslim nations, will make another run at trying to wipe Israel off the map. So that is a kind of an indicator sign as to signs of the times.


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: end of days... [Re: jawbone] #2060239
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Originally Posted By: jawbone

Help me out here because I'm far from a biblical expert, but I had a Sunday School teacher as a young adult that really studied this hard and he always said that the final sign was when The Temple on the Mount was rebuilt.


That would result in WWIII. That would be the one thing the Muslim/Arab world would coalesce around and attack Israel over. And then the dominos would start to fall.


"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him."
-G. K. Chesterton
Re: end of days... [Re: jawbone] #2060277
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Originally Posted By: jawbone
Originally Posted By: WmHunter
The Bible has all the signs and things to look for.

A real big one is the 2nd restoration of Israel.
That took place in 1948.

Another is the restored Israel being surrounded by enemies that will try to wipe her off the map. That has happened back in 1948, 1967 early 70s and continuing.

Other big symptoms are increase in knowledge and technology.
Rushing to and fro upon the earth (planes, trains, cars, etc.)
Increasing global government.
Increasing global apostasy.

In a sense, the U.S. is kind of a limit test in the sense that we are one of the last places on Earth that Satan does not have total control.


Help me out here because I'm far from a biblical expert, but I had a Sunday School teacher as a young adult that really studied this hard and he always said that the final sign was when The Temple on the Mount was rebuilt. Thoughts from anyone with knowledge in this area and I know some of you are pretty knowledgeable on biblical matters?


Though many won't agree with me, the bible teaches there will be NO signs before the 2nd coming of Jesus. He will come as a thief in the night, like in the days of Sodom and Noah.

Many people take Matt 24 way out of context. These words are found there... "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows....iniquity shall abound...When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place...then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be..."

However, whatever he was talking about would be fulfilled in that generation according to verse 34.

Matt 24:34, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

There is no 1000 year reign or years of tribulation. There is one resurrection of the dead that occurs within the same hour, for ALL, both the good and the evil.

John 5:28-29 - Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.

I know that didn't answer your question, but maybe it will be something to think about.

Re: end of days... [Re: !shiloh!] #2060284
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There are so many different interpretations and thoughts on the "end of the world" not only in the Bible but other religions and natural phenomena (both gradual like warming and immediate like an earthquake) that it's essentially a rabbit hole debate.


It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Originally Posted By: AUstan23
There are so many different interpretations and thoughts on the "end of the world" not only in the Bible but other religions and natural phenomena (both gradual like warming and immediate like an earthquake) that it's essentially a rabbit hole debate.
and since you are a certified atheist, it makes me wonder why you even care about and comment in these type threads


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Originally Posted By: RCHRR
When it ends it ends and you'd better be right with him. You can say and compare all you want to about the bible but it was written by man and translated many times but only God knows when the end is going to come and guess what. We'll never know it until after the fact. So get right and quit being chicken little. The sky is falling the sky is falling.
one thing that I can guarantee is that within the next 100 years everyone here will see the end of their days


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Originally Posted By: eskimo270

Originally Posted By: AUstan23
There are so many different interpretations and thoughts on the "end of the world" not only in the Bible but other religions and natural phenomena (both gradual like warming and immediate like an earthquake) that it's essentially a rabbit hole debate.
and since you are a certified atheist, it makes me wonder why you even care about and comment in these type threads


Because different perspectives are important


It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
Re: end of days... [Re: eskimo270] #2060309
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Originally Posted By: eskimo270

biblically, the last days began on the day of Pentecost,

‘And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;'-Peters sermon found in acts 2:17 quoted from I believe joel 2:28


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Re: end of days... [Re: AUstan23] #2060336
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Originally Posted By: AUstan23

Originally Posted By: eskimo270

Originally Posted By: AUstan23
There are so many different interpretations and thoughts on the "end of the world" not only in the Bible but other religions and natural phenomena (both gradual like warming and immediate like an earthquake) that it's essentially a rabbit hole debate.
and since you are a certified atheist, it makes me wonder why you even care about and comment in these type threads


Because different perspectives are important
no they are not, mentioning what other people or religions believe offers nothing to the op's topic and is a veiled attempt on your part to water down Biblical Christianity


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Originally Posted By: eskimo270

Originally Posted By: AUstan23

Originally Posted By: eskimo270

Originally Posted By: AUstan23
There are so many different interpretations and thoughts on the "end of the world" not only in the Bible but other religions and natural phenomena (both gradual like warming and immediate like an earthquake) that it's essentially a rabbit hole debate.
and since you are a certified atheist, it makes me wonder why you even care about and comment in these type threads


Because different perspectives are important
no they are not, mentioning what other people or religions believe offers nothing to the op's topic and is a veiled attempt on your part to water down Biblical Christianity


The topic is "end of days" and then OP references the Bible. He didn't say anything to the effect of "give me you're end times opinion with respect to biblical futurism" (as opposed to preterism, idealism, amillenialism, historicism, etc.). If he would have gone along those lines, you're right my posts would be completely arbitrary. All I did was give reference to perspectives outside of strictly Biblical futurism, but I digress.


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Re: end of days... [Re: !shiloh!] #2060371
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Not being much of a biblical scholar I could be wrong. But my impression is that the End Times will come when we think it can't or won't not when we think it can or will.


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Re: end of days... [Re: !shiloh!] #2060460
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The reason I brought up the topic was to kinda point out what's happening. In the end of days thing that are morally right Will be persecuted (witch has happened since the very beginning of Christianity) and thing that are morally wrong will be way of the overwhelming majority . If any of you fellas have time check out the sermon series "tipping point " by Jimmy evens https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/media/message/tipping-point


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what I see is nothing that has not been going on for years. The problem now is that internet and new agencies go about their daily task of digging up any dirt they find and if they find none they make up some. Trump is doing what should have been done years ago. The last few presidents did nothing because they were political motivated and bowed down to pressure. My man Trump is not doing this. To answer your Question is the end of the world near, I believe it is.

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The whole point is to be prepared. Be saved. Then it shouldn't matter when the second coming is.


Two roads diverged in the woods and I took the one with deep ruts,hills and mud.It may be bumpy but WHAT A RIDE!
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Originally Posted By: 300gr
The whole point is to be prepared. Be saved. Then it shouldn't matter when the second coming is.

This right here is the correct answer.

Re: end of days... [Re: HippieKiller] #2060592
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Originally Posted By: HippieKiller
We ain't even caught up with Rome yet on the sickness & evil scale.


The heck you say? Read Romans 1 18-32 Tell me what part of that is not present in America today as well as then in Rome?


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Originally Posted By: deerman24
what I see is nothing that has not been going on for years.


Open acceptance of homosexuality and other forms of sexual perversion has not been going on for decades. When I was a kid there weren't flaming homos walking around everywhere or on TV on every other show.

How long have we been murdering 900,000+ unborn babies in this country?

So yes, there is much more going on than has been going on for the prior 20 centuries.


If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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very true fur, Just in the last 8 years.

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