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Alabama - Age, Nutrition and Genetics #2050989
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With the various talk about these factors, it is safe to say our deer will never be as big as some from other states. So, what is an "average" sized buck? What do you think the actual average 4 1/2 year old native buck from Alabama will gross score?

Or, what do you consider to be a good, solid buck from Alabama?

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Depends on where in the state you are located

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Originally Posted By: mman
What do you think the actual average 4 1/2 year old native buck from Alabama will gross score?


100-110"


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Depends on where in the state you are located


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What do you think the actual average 4 1/2 year old native buck from Alabama will gross score?


100-110"



This. I think when hunters in my neck of the woods start throwing out he'll go 150" which seems to be a common number have no idea or haven't seen many deer that big. I know I haven't.


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I think 120 is kinda the magical number people are looking for

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I think we sometimes have unrealistic expectations.

Last year, our club average for bucks that I think were 4 1/2+ (that were scored) was 115". We do a lot to try and help grow our deer.

I'm thinking 110" may not be too far off for a statewide average 4 1/2+ deer.

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I'd say 75% of the 4 + year old deer in the state would be right at 100 inches and will never get over it


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As far as body size goes, the farther you are from the equator, the larger mammals grow.

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most of the places I've hunted in the last 20 years 4 year olds will go 120, some 130, some 110.


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And I think the further south in the state you go the average will drop also. The majority of the bucks in south Alabama will never get to 120".

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Most 4.5 year old 110" deer are probably only 2.5-3.5 years old.


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For all bucks killed over 4.5 years old I would bet money it would be 115 +/- 5. In 90% of the state. There are a few isolated spots where there are still some big agriculture fields around that would average a little higher.


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We have a lot of data on this from keeping harvest records and aging jawbones at our place. The majority of the 4 1/2 yr olds we have killed recently score in the 120s. Of course there are outliers, we have killed some that were 130+ and we even killed one that only scored 82" but was definitely 4 1/2 yrs old.

As has been said, it all depends on where you are hunting, but I would guess that statewide the average 4 1/2 yr old deer is about 110"

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Originally Posted By: jdfarm23
We have a lot of data on this from keeping harvest records and aging jawbones at our place. The majority of the 4 1/2 yr olds we have killed recently score in the 120s. Of course there are outliers, we have killed some that were 130+ and we even killed one that only scored 82" but was definitely 4 1/2 yrs old.

As has been said, it all depends on where you are hunting, but I would guess that statewide the average 4 1/2 yr old deer is about 110"


Based on our harvest records, I think only around 20% of our 4 1/2's will score 120"+. Most of the others probably fall between 110" and 115". We do have some good ones now and then. We had one young 10 pt to score around 134". It weighed 135 lbs and had a beautiful, symmetrical rack, with a 16" spread, 21 1/2 in main beams, 4 1/4 in bases, and long tines. Not sure of its age, but it had a "doe like" look to it's face. The guy that shot it says he messed up because he saw the rack and shot, and didn't notice how young it was.

Our biggest one killed so far was around 140, but I saw one a couple years ago that had to be mid 140's+. We had several guys see it and wow, what a deer.

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4yr old alabama deer... Where!!


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bama deer aren't 2.5,3.5,4.5 or 5.5... they are simply 2,3,4,5 etc..


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Originally Posted By: Turkeymaster
bama deer aren't 2.5,3.5,4.5 or 5.5... they are simply 2,3,4,5 etc..


At some point they are 2 1/2, 3 1/2, 4 1/2 or 5 1/2, and that usually occurs during deer season.

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Originally Posted By: CarbonClimber1
4yr old alabama deer... Where!!


Haha, there are a few out there.

We had one this year with its teeth worn down next to nothing. It was obviously on its way down. It only weighed 127 lbs, but had crazy palmation and very short tines, kind of like a moose. It only scored around 108"

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Originally Posted By: mman
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bama deer aren't 2.5,3.5,4.5 or 5.5... they are simply 2,3,4,5 etc..


At some point they are 2 1/2, 3 1/2, 4 1/2 or 5 1/2, and that usually occurs during deer season.


yeah i rarely see deer born in December

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