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How about a little help?
#204424
10/21/11 09:35 AM
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I've been bowhunting since 1978, and have killed a good many does and small bucks, but never a decent buck. About 8:50 this morning a decent buck was headed to my stand. Everything looked perfect - he was coming thru thick stuff and would break into the open at 15 yds. I was gonna draw when he went behind a big oak, but he spotted me just before he did. He looked at me a few seconds and then bounded back the way he came.
But he stopped at 30 yds, so I drew on him. There was a lot of brush, but I had an open shot at his back, starting about the middle of it to his neck. He was well below me, so I had a decent angle on him. I let it fly and heard the arrow hit him. He ran off kinda slow, and about 150 yds away, I heard him go down. It didn't sound like he crashed dead, just went down. I heard him move a few seconds later, then again, then silence. I'm not sure if he died there or just laid down.
I slipped down after about 20 minutes and went over to where he was standing. I found the arrow - it was broken in half, and the fletching half must still be in him. The Muzzy looked like it could be used again this afternoon. There was good blood on the arrow, and no sign of guts.
So 2 questions - where do you think he is hit? I think I probably hit to one side of the spine and it penetrated all the way thru, but I'm not at all sure.
And 2, how long should I wait? I don't want to wait so long that the meat could spoil. I'm thinking 3 hours.
All opinions welcome.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 09:42 AM
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i'd give him a couple of hours. better safe than sorry. i hope its a quick and easy recovery on him!
"Just remember a gobbler has to win every time, you only have to win once"
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 09:44 AM
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I've been bowhunting since 1978, and have killed a good many does and small bucks, but never a decent buck. About 8:50 this morning a decent buck was headed to my stand. Everything looked perfect - he was coming thru thick stuff and would break into the open at 15 yds. I was gonna draw when he went behind a big oak, but he spotted me just before he did. He looked at me a few seconds and then bounded back the way he came.
But he stopped at 30 yds, so I drew on him. There was a lot of brush, but I had an open shot at his back, starting about the middle of it to his neck. He was well below me, so I had a decent angle on him. I let it fly and heard the arrow hit him. He ran off kinda slow, and about 150 yds away, I heard him go down. It didn't sound like he crashed dead, just went down. I heard him move a few seconds later, then again, then silence. I'm not sure if he died there or just laid down.
I slipped down after about 20 minutes and went over to where he was standing. I found the arrow - it was broken in half, and the fletching half must still be in him. The Muzzy looked like it could be used again this afternoon. There was good blood on the arrow, and no sign of guts.
So 2 questions - where do you think he is hit? I think I probably hit to one side of the spine and it penetrated all the way thru, but I'm not at all sure.
And 2, how long should I wait? I don't want to wait so long that the meat could spoil. I'm thinking 3 hours.
All opinions welcome. Good luck!, I would give him until after lunch 3- 4 hours, then stalk hunt the blood trail keeping an eye out front. If the arrow stays in him and he is moving that should keep the wound open, if he lays down that will probably be where he expires.
"After all, it is not the killing that brings satisfaction; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport." Dr. Saxton Pope
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 09:44 AM
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Thanks Darryl. I feel sure he's either dead or will die. I really want to find this deer, and I'll be sick if I don't.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 09:48 AM
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you will find him. the problem with the angle you described (if im understanding correctly) is the possibility to hit one lung. i shot a small (70lbs) doe just like what you are describing and i gave her one hour. it was one of the longest tracking jobs ever. i shot her with a muzzy (which had nothing to do with the distance traveled). she went about 200yds but left a great blood trail!!!
"Just remember a gobbler has to win every time, you only have to win once"
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 09:57 AM
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sit down have a good lunch and a nap. I know its gonna be hard with all of that replaying in your mind over and over but it will give him time to expire.
was there a decent blood trail in the direction he went?
I would also agree that you are MOST likly in the vitals and you will find him just give him plenty of time.
you did the right thing by waiting and not pushing.
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Re: How about a little help?
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10/21/11 10:33 AM
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sit down have a good lunch and a nap. I know its gonna be hard with all of that replaying in your mind over and over but it will give him time to expire.
was there a decent blood trail in the direction he went?
I would also agree that you are MOST likly in the vitals and you will find him just give him plenty of time.
you did the right thing by waiting and not pushing. There won't be a nap.  Too keyed up for that. I didn't see a blood trail, but I didn't look at all. When I saw the arrow, I just slipped out to avoid scaring him. He wasn't very far away. There is no chance that I got both lungs. I had to have hit to one side of the spine and then got complete penetration. Its possible I got the heart, but more likely that I got just one lung. How long could he live with one lung? And if I killed him at 8:50, how long before the meat goes bad?
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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10/21/11 11:30 AM
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I'd say 3 hours minimum but ONLY if you are absolutely certain you didn't hit him in the guts. Did you smell the arrow to make sure? Wait 8 hours minimum if there is any bad odor on the arrow at all. The meat will be just fine for either scenario.
"The only reason I shoot a 3.5" shell for turkeys is because they don't make a 4" one." - t123winters
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 12:04 PM
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He was decenter than I realized.:)
Gotta clean him, more later, he is 21" wide.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: How about a little help?
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10/21/11 12:37 PM
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Glad you found him PCP. Did you get him with that "noisy" DXT?
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 01:02 PM
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He was decenter than I realized.:)
Gotta clean him, more later, he is 21" wide.
Awesome!! Congrats! Can't wait to see some pictures!!!
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 01:21 PM
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congrats steve! cant wait to see the pictures!!!!!!
"Just remember a gobbler has to win every time, you only have to win once"
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Re: How about a little help?
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10/21/11 01:29 PM
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Congrats Steve, glad you found him.
Let see him when you get time.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 02:09 PM
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Glad you found him! Can't wait to see some pics as well.
So weird.
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10/21/11 02:12 PM
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It only took me 33 years to get a decent buck with a bow; at this rate I'll be 90 years old when I get the next one.  I couldn't stand it anymore, so we left about noon to look for him. I found a few drops of blood where I shot him, and it soon turned into a heavy trail. Went about 100 yards and there he was; I think he died soon after I shot him.  I hit him a little further forward than I thought. It entered high behind the left shoulder and exited between his legs. Got one lung, just as we figured. The rest of the arrow was still in him. He had a better rack than I realized. An 8 pt, he had a 21" inside spread, one 23" beam and one was 21.25. I looked him over carefully when we found him, hoping he would make 130, but I decided he wouldn't quite make it. He didn't, but 127.75 is a good deer for our area.  Yes Shaw, it was that noisy Matthews that got him. I think your tune-up job really helped it. Jughead, there were no guts on the arrow, so I thought 3 hours ought to be long enough. I suspect he was dead in 5 minutes, but its better to give them time. Thanks to everyone for the help. 
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Re: How about a little help?
[Re: poorcountrypreacher]
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10/21/11 02:21 PM
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Preacher, that is ONE FINE DEER!!! I'd be thrilled to take a buck like that with a bow (or a gun for that matter).
Congrats!
Jesus... I hope you know Him personally like I do.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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10/21/11 02:51 PM
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Brute preacher! Glad you found him! Congrats!!!!!
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10/21/11 02:52 PM
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Nice Buck Preacher. Congratulations...
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10/21/11 02:54 PM
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Mighty fine! Congrats again!!
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10/21/11 02:55 PM
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Congrats Steve! that is a Great Buck!!!!
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10/21/11 02:59 PM
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Awesome .... good to see a happy ending..
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10/21/11 03:18 PM
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Great deer! Way to persevere on the big boys.
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10/21/11 03:41 PM
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Very nice deer! Good shot!
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10/21/11 04:07 PM
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Congrats on a great buck!
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10/21/11 05:14 PM
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Im glad you found him man!!!!! Now when do I get to hunt with you.
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10/21/11 05:34 PM
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congrats...I like those wide deer...
troy
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10/21/11 06:08 PM
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Hope im around to see the one when your 90.
Good looking deer.
Do you want to hear him gobble, or do you want to kill him.
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10/21/11 06:38 PM
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Dang Preacher, that's a Boy Dog! Congrats. I killed gobblers 1 & 2 right after you posted your first turkey kills this year, maybe the trend will continue through deer season.
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10/21/11 09:01 PM
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Awesome buck and shooting, PCP. Congratulations.
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Great buck Preacher. Glad you found him. From the spot of that entry hole and where you say it came out it appears you actually didn't have much to worry about. Congrats on a good shot and really good buck!
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Great buck Preacher. Glad you found him. From the spot of that entry hole and where you say it came out it appears you actually didn't have much to worry about. Congrats on a good shot and really good buck! Todd, if you will look closely at the pics, you can see part of the arrow sticking out of him. It only got one lung, but I guess that was all the Muzzy needed. Didn't see a thing today, but it didn't matter; been a good bow season for me. Thanks again to all for the help and encouragement.
All the labor of man is for his mouth, and yet the appetite is not filled.
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Congratulations on a great deer and a great story. Patience has paid off. +1
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10/24/11 06:09 AM
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Congrats! Maybe it won't be so long on the next one!
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10/24/11 08:29 AM
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Steve,
Congratulations on harvesting a good buck. He is a keeper for sure. Keep up the good work. All those clover fields are paying some dividend. Rumor has it that another good one fell yesterday afternoon on our side. Waiting on pics now.
Good luck,
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Re: How about a little help?
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10/24/11 09:42 AM
10/24/11 09:42 AM
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Joined: May 2002
Posts: 8,030
Central Alabama
muzziehead
14 point
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14 point
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 8,030
Central Alabama
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Great looking buck PCP. Glad you were able to recover him.
"Don't cling to Mistake, just because you spent a lot of time making it."
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