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How about a little help? #204424
10/21/11 09:35 AM
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I've been bowhunting since 1978, and have killed a good many does and small bucks, but never a decent buck. About 8:50 this morning a decent buck was headed to my stand. Everything looked perfect - he was coming thru thick stuff and would break into the open at 15 yds. I was gonna draw when he went behind a big oak, but he spotted me just before he did. He looked at me a few seconds and then bounded back the way he came.

But he stopped at 30 yds, so I drew on him. There was a lot of brush, but I had an open shot at his back, starting about the middle of it to his neck. He was well below me, so I had a decent angle on him. I let it fly and heard the arrow hit him. He ran off kinda slow, and about 150 yds away, I heard him go down. It didn't sound like he crashed dead, just went down. I heard him move a few seconds later, then again, then silence. I'm not sure if he died there or just laid down.

I slipped down after about 20 minutes and went over to where he was standing. I found the arrow - it was broken in half, and the fletching half must still be in him. The Muzzy looked like it could be used again this afternoon. There was good blood on the arrow, and no sign of guts.

So 2 questions - where do you think he is hit? I think I probably hit to one side of the spine and it penetrated all the way thru, but I'm not at all sure.

And 2, how long should I wait? I don't want to wait so long that the meat could spoil. I'm thinking 3 hours.

All opinions welcome.


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204429
10/21/11 09:42 AM
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i'd give him a couple of hours. better safe than sorry. i hope its a quick and easy recovery on him!


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204431
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
I've been bowhunting since 1978, and have killed a good many does and small bucks, but never a decent buck. About 8:50 this morning a decent buck was headed to my stand. Everything looked perfect - he was coming thru thick stuff and would break into the open at 15 yds. I was gonna draw when he went behind a big oak, but he spotted me just before he did. He looked at me a few seconds and then bounded back the way he came.

But he stopped at 30 yds, so I drew on him. There was a lot of brush, but I had an open shot at his back, starting about the middle of it to his neck. He was well below me, so I had a decent angle on him. I let it fly and heard the arrow hit him. He ran off kinda slow, and about 150 yds away, I heard him go down. It didn't sound like he crashed dead, just went down. I heard him move a few seconds later, then again, then silence. I'm not sure if he died there or just laid down.

I slipped down after about 20 minutes and went over to where he was standing. I found the arrow - it was broken in half, and the fletching half must still be in him. The Muzzy looked like it could be used again this afternoon. There was good blood on the arrow, and no sign of guts.

So 2 questions - where do you think he is hit? I think I probably hit to one side of the spine and it penetrated all the way thru, but I'm not at all sure.

And 2, how long should I wait? I don't want to wait so long that the meat could spoil. I'm thinking 3 hours.

All opinions welcome.


Good luck!, I would give him until after lunch 3- 4 hours, then stalk hunt the blood trail keeping an eye out front. If the arrow stays in him and he is moving that should keep the wound open, if he lays down that will probably be where he expires.


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204432
10/21/11 09:44 AM
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Thanks Darryl. I feel sure he's either dead or will die. I really want to find this deer, and I'll be sick if I don't.


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204433
10/21/11 09:48 AM
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you will find him. the problem with the angle you described (if im understanding correctly) is the possibility to hit one lung. i shot a small (70lbs) doe just like what you are describing and i gave her one hour. it was one of the longest tracking jobs ever. i shot her with a muzzy (which had nothing to do with the distance traveled). she went about 200yds but left a great blood trail!!!


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204442
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sit down have a good lunch and a nap. I know its gonna be hard with all of that replaying in your mind over and over but it will give him time to expire.
was there a decent blood trail in the direction he went?
I would also agree that you are MOST likly in the vitals and you will find him just give him plenty of time.
you did the right thing by waiting and not pushing.


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: longshot] #204443
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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204448
10/21/11 10:05 AM
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Hope you find him.


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: Shaw] #204450
10/21/11 10:12 AM
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I would wait 3 to 4 hour and slip in. Even with a single lung or liver shot he should be dead. Keep us posted. I'm jealous I'm sure it was a great morning

Re: How about a little help? [Re: longshot] #204469
10/21/11 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: longshot
sit down have a good lunch and a nap. I know its gonna be hard with all of that replaying in your mind over and over but it will give him time to expire.
was there a decent blood trail in the direction he went?
I would also agree that you are MOST likly in the vitals and you will find him just give him plenty of time.
you did the right thing by waiting and not pushing.


There won't be a nap. wink

Too keyed up for that. I didn't see a blood trail, but I didn't look at all. When I saw the arrow, I just slipped out to avoid scaring him. He wasn't very far away.

There is no chance that I got both lungs. I had to have hit to one side of the spine and then got complete penetration. Its possible I got the heart, but more likely that I got just one lung. How long could he live with one lung?

And if I killed him at 8:50, how long before the meat goes bad?


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204494
10/21/11 11:30 AM
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I'd say 3 hours minimum but ONLY if you are absolutely certain you didn't hit him in the guts. Did you smell the arrow to make sure? Wait 8 hours minimum if there is any bad odor on the arrow at all. The meat will be just fine for either scenario.


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204503
10/21/11 12:04 PM
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He was decenter than I realized.:)

Gotta clean him, more later, he is 21" wide.


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204504
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
He was decenter than I realized.:)

Gotta clean him, more later, he is 21" wide.



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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204506
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Good Job PCP!!!!


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204507
10/21/11 12:15 PM
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Awesome! Glad you found him, waiting on pics!

Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204514
10/21/11 12:26 PM
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Congrats!


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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204515
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Congrats!! Looking forward to pictures!!

Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204516
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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204518
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Re: How about a little help? [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #204519
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