The fact is that I don't have an answer that will satisfy you,just like you don't have one that will satisfy me. Your answer is that it's all a conspiracy by the media,that all the attack stories are just made up lies. I don't buy that either.

My point about school violence in our era is that for some things there may not be a good answer, but that doesn't mean that it's just a made up lie.

It's not all the media's fault there is other factors as well. The media is a factor. Y'all put a lot of faith in the media at times though. Not really sure what they have done to earn your trust though.. Didn't we even have a few threads about there ignorance on guns and Clem offered to help educate his fellow journalist but they couldn't care less. My point is just because y'all read a headline and sometimes not even the story, how does that some how make you more knowledgeable than a person like me?

It's not all conspiracy but I've seen a lot of killer pit bulls on news story that prolly even never shared a food bowl with a pit. Just like all those pump action AK's and high capacity glock revolvers

I promise you if it's a news story about a killer dog and that dog is not obviously a chihuahua, it's a pit

Another simple question is why has breed specific legislation been reversed? I'll answer this one for you. Cause they found out that there was still dog bites and dog bite fatalities. If you don't believe me, research it yourself

I'm not saying that none of that is true. I'm not saying that only pits are deadly. What I am saying is that it's likely that the dogs in those stories are more pit than lab, even if they are mixed breeds. Labs and poodles don't tear people apart like pits and pit mixes.

I've owned a Golden retriever that weighed 85 lbs and acted like he would tear you up. I never doubted that he would bite, but you can't convince me that he would attack like a pit or pit mix and kill a person unless he was forced to stop.

I believe pits and pit mixed breeds are dangerous dogs,much more dangerous than most other breeds,with the exception of just a couple, and if statistics are to be believed pits are several times more deadly than even those few other really dangerous breeds.

Statistics according to who? You think a 50 lb pit is more dangerous than say a presto canario. A dog that worth a Google search on. Most people would consider it a pit but it's entirely a different breed. More dangerous than a dogo? I could name probably 20 more breeds that probably more dangerous.

I don't like pits, but don't want them banned. Make it perfectly legal to kill any animal on your property and make owners completely responsible for their animals. If a dog kills someone's kid, manslaughter, or worse if an attorney can prove the owners caused that behavior. If a cow causes a collision, owner is liable, etc. if these were the laws and they were enforced, we'd see a lot less of these attacks and a lot less desire for people to own dogs if they shouldn't have them.

They are everywhere in the inner city of New Orleans. It's considered a status symbol, or a sign you are bad. even outlawing them won't stop thugs from having them, or make them responsible owners.

I'm sure most, if not all, the pit owners on Aldeer are ahead of the national "responsible dog owner" curve. However, I don't get all the hair splitting about variations or corruptions in the breed...insisting that other breeds also show human aggression is irrelevant...pit (bully) attacks are what result in serious injuries and deaths. People can't be expected to look at you and tell that you're a responsible handler, and your dog poses no threat. It's their right to be leery of any dog.
Here's one of the two involved in the Atlanta attack in question. Feel free to remind us that a Border Collie was also involved...I'm sure its killing ability is equal to this pit mix...who incidentally has the kids' blood stains on its chest.

All I know is that according to the statistics, that you won't accept, a lot more pits kill people than the presto canario.

I'm done discussing it with you though.

Pits are like muslims. Sooner or later they are going to do what they were bred (or inbred) to do. It's just that simple. Pit owners are mostly snowflakes anyway.

Dallas, how dare you speak common sense when dealing with pit attacks !

Can't reason with em Clark.

2 simple questions yet they haven't been answered.

Look like pit to me Ike, but when BSL is introduced into an area. They still have dog bites. It's just the idiots get different large dogs, treat them irresponsiblely, and end up with the same problem.

The problem with this is the same as with many things, Stupid Azz People. And that goes for both sides of this problem.

Says the man whose seen 3 black Panthers.

What kills me in this whole thread is how it brings out all the hate towards a certain group (pit owners) but when it comes down to it, most of the haters and name callers would keep their mouths shut if this was a face to face debate. I see quite a few on here that would keep their heads down with hands in pockets.

To say all pits are bad is the same as saying all blacks are thugs and all mexicans are illegal...

Just to be clear, I haven't said anything in this thread I wouldn't say in a room with 2-3 pit owners and their dogs.

You seem to be a pretty tough guy for being on here a couple weeks.

It seems that almost every month there is a report about a pit KILLING either a child or an elderly person. I don't remember of a single report of another breed killing a person.

Because it doesnt get media attention, same as a black cop shooting a white man... or a black person shooting any white guy far as that goes