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Cost of replanting pines? #1993475
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What kind of cost could someone expect to replant pines in a three year old cutover? Land is approximately 200 acres.


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Re: Cost of replanting pines? [Re: Big Buck Video] #1993485
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Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: Cost of replanting pines? [Re: Big Buck Video] #1993487
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Has it already had 3 growing seasons since it was harvested?

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Originally Posted By: turkey247
Has it already had 3 growing seasons since it was harvested?


Can you not just plant them after harvest? I don't know jack about Timber management but trying to learn


Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: Cost of replanting pines? [Re: Big Buck Video] #1993498
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Sounds like there's gonna be some site prep needed if it's been 3 seasons since timber was cut


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Re: Cost of replanting pines? [Re: Big Buck Video] #1993507
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Seems like I paid $350/acre....but it was 20 some-odd years ago and I may be completely off base...maybe it was $350 total, I don't remember...If it was $350 total, it was about 50 bucks an acre, I had about 7 acres planted, I do remember that...


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Originally Posted By: DEADorALIVE
Seems like I paid $350/acre....but it was 20 some-odd years ago and I may be completely off base...maybe it was $350 total, I don't remember...If it was $350 total, it was about 50 bucks an acre, I had about 7 acres planted, I do remember that...


That's steep. Was probably $50/acre then.

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Originally Posted By: Dkhargroves

Originally Posted By: turkey247
Has it already had 3 growing seasons since it was harvested?


Can you not just plant them after harvest? I don't know jack about Timber management but trying to learn


You can. But you need to state your goals first, then you can come up with a regeneration plan. No matter how soon after harvest you plant, some type of selective vegetation control will be necessary if you want to intensively grow an average timberland type plantation.

No matter what area you are, there should be a consulting forester nearby that can help you with a plan. If you have 200 acres, don't just "wing it". That's a good acreage to do something productive with.

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This is a property that I am looking at for a possible purchase. Yes it has gone three seasons with nothing done. I would definitely want to work with a forester to get a good plan. Currently I am just trying to figure out if the cost to do site prep and replant would make me rule this piece of property out.


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You usually plant and spray Arsenal the year after it's cut. 3 years is a while. I seem to remember $120/acre, but not sure if that covers spraying.

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Originally Posted By: Remington270
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Seems like I paid $350/acre....but it was 20 some-odd years ago and I may be completely off base...maybe it was $350 total, I don't remember...If it was $350 total, it was about 50 bucks an acre, I had about 7 acres planted, I do remember that...


That's steep. Was probably $50/acre then.

I'll go with that. Or maybe not...maybe it was less. I've been drinking, so I really don't know! smile


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Originally Posted By: Big Buck Video
This is a property that I am looking at for a possible purchase. Yes it has gone three seasons with nothing done. I would definitely want to work with a forester to get a good plan. Currently I am just trying to figure out if the cost to do site prep and replant would make me rule this piece of property out.



A lot of variables could be in play here. I site visit would quickly tell the story of what needs to be done, though. PM me your number, if you're interested.


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If I wanted to plant 4-5 acres of long leaf in an open field about how many trees would I need and how much are they?I'm wanting to plant them in strips maybe 30ft wide with open lanes maybe 15ft in between..I'm ignorant when it comes to forestry.I just want some fast growing trees in my field so I can maybe get some deer coming in more regular and feel comfortable instead of it just being wide open fields.

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I had mine planted WAY dense...7000 trees in 7 acres. Titmoths and natural selection thinned some of them out, the rest are doing fine, but 8' between rows and 6' between trees was too close...the trees, 20 some-odd years later, are tall and spindly...but they were planted more as a windbreak that as a money crop, so that's all good, I suppose.


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Originally Posted By: trox28
If I wanted to plant 4-5 acres of long leaf in an open field about how many trees would I need and how much are they?I'm wanting to plant them in strips maybe 30ft wide with open lanes maybe 15ft in between..I'm ignorant when it comes to forestry.I just want some fast growing trees in my field so I can maybe get some deer coming in more regular and feel comfortable instead of it just being wide open fields.


484 trees for 5 acres.


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Originally Posted By: trox28
If I wanted to plant 4-5 acres of long leaf in an open field about how many trees would I need and how much are they?I'm wanting to plant them in strips maybe 30ft wide with open lanes maybe 15ft in between..I'm ignorant when it comes to forestry.I just want some fast growing trees in my field so I can maybe get some deer coming in more regular and feel comfortable instead of it just being wide open fields.


With that spacing, that's only about 100 trees/acre. But don't get Longleaf if you want fast growing like you stated. They are pretty, but not fast growing.

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Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: trox28
If I wanted to plant 4-5 acres of long leaf in an open field about how many trees would I need and how much are they?I'm wanting to plant them in strips maybe 30ft wide with open lanes maybe 15ft in between..I'm ignorant when it comes to forestry.I just want some fast growing trees in my field so I can maybe get some deer coming in more regular and feel comfortable instead of it just being wide open fields.


With that spacing, that's only about 100 trees/acre. But don't get Longleaf if you want fast growing like you stated. They are pretty, but not fast growing.



And the field will more than likely need the rows ripped.


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Originally Posted By: N2TRKYS
Originally Posted By: trox28
If I wanted to plant 4-5 acres of long leaf in an open field about how many trees would I need and how much are they?I'm wanting to plant them in strips maybe 30ft wide with open lanes maybe 15ft in between..I'm ignorant when it comes to forestry.I just want some fast growing trees in my field so I can maybe get some deer coming in more regular and feel comfortable instead of it just being wide open fields.


484 trees for 5 acres.


Where would I get them and how much you think that many trees would cost?

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Originally Posted By: turkey247
Originally Posted By: trox28
If I wanted to plant 4-5 acres of long leaf in an open field about how many trees would I need and how much are they?I'm wanting to plant them in strips maybe 30ft wide with open lanes maybe 15ft in between..I'm ignorant when it comes to forestry.I just want some fast growing trees in my field so I can maybe get some deer coming in more regular and feel comfortable instead of it just being wide open fields.


With that spacing, that's only about 100 trees/acre. But don't get Longleaf if you want fast growing like you stated. They are pretty, but not fast growing.


I guess loblollys do grow alot faster but the majority of the longleaf planted 2 or 3 years ago in a clearcut I hunt are already 6-7ft tall.

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From what I've read longleaf stays in a grass stage for several years. Seemed like the first 5 to 7 years it's growing down not up putting on a serious root ball. I'm sure someone will correct any wrong info as I'm going off memory,.

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