Looking for around 1000 acres on the river with camp. Would like it to be in Marengo,Dallas,Monroe,lowndes, Wilcox area. Basically from as north as demopolis al to as far south as Frisco city . If you know of a good place let me know

Where did you end up hunting this year? I know you were looking for a while. Y'all do any good?

We leased 4500 acres in Marengo county on the river with 6 other guys. Best looking property you could ever see but there was no deer on the property. So I'm back looking again. I did lease the Mexico property that I posted on here again last year, I killed a 192 3/8 non typical and the rest of our group killed really nice ones also. I leased it again for this coming up year.

Let's see the 192!

What he said.

4,500 acres in Marengo Co on the river what most people would consider one of the top places in the state and not enough deer for you to keep the lease. WOW. What do you contribute the lack of deer to.

192, Dang!! That's awesome. Sucks the other did not work out.

192 and i wouldn't be going anywhere. However I don't know your circumstances.

Not sure why that river property ended up so bad. we have only killed doe and hogs on the property. Ran cameras on the property all summer and did not have one shooter on camera

For the guy that wanted to see the 192, go to Patrick Starnes outdoors and click on his face book page and you will see the non typical that's leading the Angadi Tournament. Sorry I don't know how to put pictures on this site.

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Nice! Congrats!

Dang Son!! Nice

Parts of south Marengo, south of Linden, deer populations are declining big time. I wish I knew the exact answer, but I believe it's simply a combination of hunting pressure (due to the area being a traditional hotspot), those hunters accustomed to shooting does and can't stop, and coyotes with hardly any substantial trapping in the area.

If you guys hunted where I do, you would swear deer needed to be added to the endangered species list. It's been a rapid decline in the past 10 years - very alarming.

I feel like the sawyerville area is the same way. Havent even seen a deer crossing the road in so long i cant remember

This place will fool you, if you ride the property it's the prettiest river bottom land you'll see with big green hayfields along the river. All the green fields are at least 5 acres in size with huge shooting houses. With a decent camp on it, but the deer are not there

Did y'all ever do a camera survey before the season? That's crazy. Seems like folks on here always talk about giving a left nut for a lease in the black belt like that. Maybe they get shot to hell just as bad as anywhere else.

Black belt living on its 80's and early 90's reputation. Still pocket's of very good hunting. ASSUMING GC is accurate and every county had 100% reporting (it isn't close) look at the Black Belt numbers. Only Dallas is living up to its reputation.

we did a 3 month camera survey and I bet I didn't have 3 bucks on camera in 3 months on 4500 acres on the river. If the lease was free next year it wouldn't be worth it. But the landowners are very good people so I did meet a couple of new friends but that would be about it.

...But gamecheck only counts dead deer, not live ones, and you're assuming the same number of folks hunting in those counties vs, say, Walker county. I bet there's twice as many people chasing 1/3 the deer in Walker county. So, not sure how not as many dead deer means anything. I probably means there are less people hunting them.

Ledkins Property?

There will always be deer in the mid and western black belt strip but i think the new hotspot for deer is moving east. Russell, Lee, Chambers counties will be the dallas, marengo, and lowndes of the future. Purely gut feeling on this.

Dr. B

have any coons on it?

So, you're saying GC is useless?
You do have a valid point. But the Black Belt is way overrated today with the exception of spotty areas. Still fetching premium prices all over though. Perception = $$$

Maybe they shot up all the does. Kind of hard to keep up a population when you take out all of the breeding stock.

it must be my fault because I hunted 4 miles south of Linden in High School and on the BW river near Sawyerville in college. This was over 25 years ago but I do have a habit of scaring deer away.

If it's the place I'm thinking about Shady Grove? that place was hunted out years ago it used to be prime time hunting back in the day. It's funny you can go across the blacktop road and be titty deep in deer and some monster bucks

Its not shady grove, I'm not going to get into the name of the place cause I really like the owners and I know how things can get back to people turned around. The hunting sucked but the owners were great. I will send out the name and the contacts after the season in case someone wants to get in.

Any turkeys on it?

I grew up south of Linden back in the 80's and even then, the deer population in our area wasn't as high as in other parts of the county. We hunted in the early 90's some property belonging to Miller Lumber Company that joined Shady Grove HC and would always see a LOT of deer. I saw 75 opening day of gun season one year... and when Shady Grove would put on their annual dog drive it wasn't uncommon to see 150+ deer.

Zach is the 4500 acre track the one advertised for deer only no turkey hunting?

Yes