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Re: Owning vs leasing vs a club
[Re: Atoler]
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12/22/16 02:56 PM
12/22/16 02:56 PM
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Lower AL
k bush
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Lower AL
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From a hunting perspective, club all day.... Something with a few like minded individuals leasing a big piece of land. Owning or leasing small tracts, you're at the mercy of your neighbors. What would you consider a big piece of land. Depends on the terrain and how thick it is. More than 2k, ideally 3-5k with 1 member per 6-800 acres. Not to say that small pieces can't be very very good, but once again, you're at the mercy of your neighbors. Your neighbors determine how good it's is or how bad it is. With 6-800 acres you're going to have one helluva budget unless you are leasing at a ridiculously low price per acre. At $10/acre you're at 6-8000 per member before any planting, stand maintenance or camp operation. In about 10 years you could buy 40-80 acres depending on location and timber.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Owning vs leasing vs a club
[Re: k bush]
#1963668
12/22/16 04:07 PM
12/22/16 04:07 PM
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Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 8,398
Atoler
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 8,398
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From a hunting perspective, club all day.... Something with a few like minded individuals leasing a big piece of land. Owning or leasing small tracts, you're at the mercy of your neighbors. What would you consider a big piece of land. Depends on the terrain and how thick it is. More than 2k, ideally 3-5k with 1 member per 6-800 acres. Not to say that small pieces can't be very very good, but once again, you're at the mercy of your neighbors. Your neighbors determine how good it's is or how bad it is. With 6-800 acres you're going to have one helluva budget unless you are leasing at a ridiculously low price per acre. At $10/acre you're at 6-8000 per member before any planting, stand maintenance or camp operation. In about 10 years you could buy 40-80 acres depending on location and timber. Sure, that's why I said ideally... As in "in my dreams".
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Re: Owning vs leasing vs a club
[Re: jbc]
#1963669
12/22/16 04:07 PM
12/22/16 04:07 PM
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Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 8,398
Atoler
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 8,398
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From a hunting perspective, club all day.... Something with a few like minded individuals leasing a big piece of land. Owning or leasing small tracts, you're at the mercy of your neighbors. What would you consider a big piece of land. Depends on the terrain and how thick it is. More than 2k, ideally 3-5k with 1 member per 6-800 acres. I like the way you think
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Re: Owning vs leasing vs a club
[Re: blahblahblah]
#1963710
12/22/16 04:39 PM
12/22/16 04:39 PM
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Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 3,850
Dothan/Hartford,Al
87dixieboy
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10 point
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Posts: 3,850
Dothan/Hartford,Al
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Some of y'all must be made of money. Ain't no way on this earth, i dont play the lottery, that i could ever afford 500 acres
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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Re: Owning vs leasing vs a club
[Re: blahblahblah]
#1963748
12/22/16 05:16 PM
12/22/16 05:16 PM
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Posts: 8,377
Gulfcrest
bigt
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14 point
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Gulfcrest
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Benefits of say owning 40-100 acres, leasing 200=400 acres or being in a club with 1,000 to 3,000 acres. What say ye? Also, I am open to all three next year somewhere between Andalusia and Brewton next year. So keep me in mind too. The problem with owning 40-100 acres for hunting is you are at the mercy of your neighbors. I live on 96 acres and it is not worth a piss for hunting due to the surrounding properties. The same would be true for a small lease. Really it is all about location with those two options. With a 3000 acre club with the right members you could really have some good hunting.
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Re: Owning vs leasing vs a club
[Re: blahblahblah]
#1963878
12/22/16 08:51 PM
12/22/16 08:51 PM
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Posts: 512
Alabama
blahblahblah
OP
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OP
4 point
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 512
Alabama
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From my experience, the clubs that I thought I had the right members in was the one who seemed to "WANT" to be the right member was always the worst of the bunch. The one that said "no does on plots, no bucks younger than 3.5 years old, and limited pressure, was the one that went walking or riding from plot to plot when most of the members weren't there shooting does out of them, and who shot a 4 point. Of course they were the president of the club too. I could do the club thing again if it was 3-4 guys I have known a long time. Otherwise a small lease or maybe someday a small purchase will be all I can do. I guess I would need to have an alliance with the neighbors. Maybe I could try to go the incorporated purchase route where 3-4 guys bought land together, but then I could see losing friendships and a lot of money over that.
You can take a man's life, but you can't take his freedom.
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Re: Owning vs leasing vs a club
[Re: Atoler]
#1963994
12/23/16 03:43 AM
12/23/16 03:43 AM
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Posts: 5,744
Lower AL
k bush
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 5,744
Lower AL
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From a hunting perspective, club all day.... Something with a few like minded individuals leasing a big piece of land. Owning or leasing small tracts, you're at the mercy of your neighbors. What would you consider a big piece of land. Depends on the terrain and how thick it is. More than 2k, ideally 3-5k with 1 member per 6-800 acres. Not to say that small pieces can't be very very good, but once again, you're at the mercy of your neighbors. Your neighbors determine how good it's is or how bad it is. With 6-800 acres you're going to have one helluva budget unless you are leasing at a ridiculously low price per acre. At $10/acre you're at 6-8000 per member before any planting, stand maintenance or camp operation. In about 10 years you could buy 40-80 acres depending on location and timber. Sure, that's why I said ideally... As in "in my dreams". Gotcha. Not every small tract is going to be perfect. But there are some that produce well. Location, location, location.
"Cull" is just another four letter word...
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Re: Owning vs leasing vs a club
[Re: k bush]
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12/23/16 04:18 AM
12/23/16 04:18 AM
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Posts: 7,780
central ala,
centralala
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 7,780
central ala,
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From a hunting perspective, club all day.... Something with a few like minded individuals leasing a big piece of land. Owning or leasing small tracts, you're at the mercy of your neighbors. What would you consider a big piece of land. Depends on the terrain and how thick it is. More than 2k, ideally 3-5k with 1 member per 6-800 acres. Not to say that small pieces can't be very very good, but once again, you're at the mercy of your neighbors. Your neighbors determine how good it's is or how bad it is. With 6-800 acres you're going to have one helluva budget unless you are leasing at a ridiculously low price per acre. At $10/acre you're at 6-8000 per member before any planting, stand maintenance or camp operation. In about 10 years you could buy 40-80 acres depending on location and timber. Sure, that's why I said ideally... As in "in my dreams". Gotcha. Not every small tract is going to be perfect. But there are some that produce well. Location, location, location. Can't deny location but almost equal if not equal is work, work, and work. Also, do NOT set expectations higher than the norm for the area. They most ALL will produce given the right work done to it. The right work is done by seeing what your neighbors DON'T have and your best guess after research what your land needs. I could go on and on but I am a firm believer to make it work, really work to the maximum potential on any property large or small, start with one that is close enough to home to give the full attention it needs. In other words, if you live in Mobile an buy in Birmingham, you're not going to be able to drop in after work and trim up the roads.
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