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Will Ladino Clover #1859237
09/28/16 03:11 AM
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We are planting wheat and rye, I have always preferred to Plant clover in plots also. I picked up enough ladino Clover yesterday to seed 21,000 sq. feet to overseed into the seed bed before the next rain and in to few small shady plots. I have never planted ladino clover, anybody have any experience or suggestions with it? how easy was it to establish and how did it hold up? Good/Bad?


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Re: Will Ladino Clover [Re: Bustinbeards] #1859242
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I've planted it throughout the years, with good success. It won't give you much this fall/winter, but will starting in the spring. Mine last 5-7 years, if taken care of.


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Re: Will Ladino Clover [Re: Bustinbeards] #1859258
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We planted Ladino three years ago in a couple of small patches in a cow pasture. Deer hammered it! Cows hammered it. It was overtaken by pasture grass during the spring & summer. He cut hay all summer, too. Next fall we sprayed with gly, ran the disc over it and it came up as strong as the year before. We cant get rid of it, and apparently we've tried.
Very hardy and durable.

Re: Will Ladino Clover [Re: Bustinbeards] #1859265
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I plant it every year. Just prepare the seed bed, spread and run a light drag over it. You only want it 1/4 inch covered. The deer will hammer it by December. If I can plant it with success, anyone can. It's great stuff. The turkeys love it.


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Re: Will Ladino Clover [Re: Bustinbeards] #1859279
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I've always been told that clover go dormant after the first real frost.

is there any truth to it? If so I'd guess that a clover plot in Jackson county would probably be dormant by mid-november?

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Ladino is a perrenial clover. The first fall and winter its establishing its root system, most all growth is below ground. Spring it will explode. It doesn't like extreme heat, so late summer without rain really puts a hurt on it, especially in sandy soil. You need late evening shade. Keep weeds and grasses at bay so it doesn't choke it out. Durana has a higher stolon count and is better suited for the south, IMO. You can top sew it very easily.

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Originally Posted By: dreadpiratebob
I've always been told that clover go dormant after the first real frost.

is there any truth to it? If so I'd guess that a clover plot in Jackson county would probably be dormant by mid-november?


Horse pooy. I plant a two acre ladino only plot, and come late January it's by far the best producing plot on my place.


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Re: Will Ladino Clover [Re: Bustinbeards] #1859346
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This must be an older clover plot, cause you wont get much growth before spring with a perrenial clover.

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So with that said, should I attempt to throw out clover when I plant for it to get a start before spring? or wait til Early spring and just let it go?

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plant it now so it will establish and start growing, it will kick into gear during the spring and grow through the summer if it doesn't burn up in the heat


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Re: Will Ladino Clover [Re: Bustinbeards] #1859634
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Try Oats and Wheat. No rye. The Oats and wheat will die out. In spring the rye will flourish/reseed and you will have a grass problem. This is from personal experience. Spray with Clethodim in spring. and mow a couple of times early summer, just not too low. Like others said: Ladino takes a year to really take off. If it looks like you have lost your crop, be patient. I thought we had a total crop failure and almost replanted but was amazed in the spring. We use a mix of Crimson, durana, and ladino. All have their weaknesses and strengths and together they provide nearly year round nutrition. I always overseed in the fall with a small amount of the clover mix, wheats and oats.

Re: Will Ladino Clover [Re: tsmith] #1859678
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Originally Posted By: tsmith
Try Oats and Wheat. No rye. The Oats and wheat will die out. In spring the rye will flourish/reseed and you will have a grass problem. This is from personal experience. Spray with Clethodim in spring. and mow a couple of times early summer, just not too low. Like others said: Ladino takes a year to really take off. If it looks like you have lost your crop, be patient. I thought we had a total crop failure and almost replanted but was amazed in the spring. We use a mix of Crimson, durana, and ladino. All have their weaknesses and strengths and together they provide nearly year round nutrition. I always overseed in the fall with a small amount of the clover mix, wheats and oats.
I agree, I am not a fan of the seed they got, but I was not the Captain of the ship for seed purchases. wink


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Re: Will Ladino Clover [Re: Bustinbeards] #1860149
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Big difference between rye grass and grain. If they got grain you will be fine if it's grass you will be fighting it all next year. Im guessing they got grass so I would wait and frost seed the clover around Feb. that way it won't be competing with the grass early winter establishing itself. After seeding I would come back in early spring and start knocking out the grass with light spraying.

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Re: Will Ladino Clover [Re: Bustinbeards] #1860260
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If your wanting a perrenial clover plot plant this fall. It needs the time to get its root system developed. Planting in Feb., could lead to its root system not being developed enough before our hot dry summers get here. Remember it was in the 90's first part of June, plus its easier to combat weeds and grasses when planted in the fall. As i said before, spray clethodim in early april. I actually spray gly at a reduced rate, 1.25qts/acre to kill weeds and grasses come spring once the clover matures.


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