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Re: Debate tonight [Re: Big Al] #1857917
09/26/16 05:33 PM
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Forget that chit. I've already decided. Watched The Revenant instead.


"Arguing on the internet is like playing chess with a pigeon. You may be good at chess, but the pigeon is just going to knock all the pieces down, take a crap on the table, and strut around like its victorious."--Anonymous
Re: Debate tonight [Re: crenshawco] #1857918
09/26/16 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: crenshawco
Originally Posted By: thirtyotsix
All you Trump haters can suck it. Don't you know there are three debates. Everything is planned. Idiots.


Hahaha intentionally blow the first debate? Bold strategy cotton


Don't bring common sense into this. He was on a roll.

Re: Debate tonight [Re: bill] #1857919
09/26/16 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: bill

Originally Posted By: JDR4Bama

Originally Posted By: Skinny
Time magazine poll has it at 50/50 which is what you want in this kind of race for the first debate. That is also a very liberal rag. Our opinions here in Alabama are not nearly as important as what the voters in Ohio, Michigan, and other mostly democrat states think.


That's a problem. The phuck does a state I live in dictate how my vote matters. The system is garbage.


Because if you lived in a pure democracy a simple majority could decide that everyone with the name Jimmy or Bill has to pay 75% income tax. That's nothing but mob rule and our founding fathers came up with a much better alternative.


Maine and Nebraska have a better grasp on it than most. Why aren't all states and therefore all voters playing by the same rules? Most states do the winner takes all concept for the electoral college. Truth is, my vote doesn't matter if I live in a strong liberal state. I believe my vote should matter equally. There just isn't a good way to do it with how our population is dispersed.

Re: Debate tonight [Re: thirtyotsix] #1857925
09/26/16 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: thirtyotsix
Is that all you got. Typical. You democrats sure stick together.

So anyone that doesn't see things the way you do is a democrat? The irony of that line of thinking is that it's usually a left wing idiot that can stand for someone to have a different opinion than them. I won't apologize for my opinion. I've never said that I'm not going to vote for Trump. Hell I would vote for you if it meant keeping that sickly crazy ass woman out the WH. But the fact is, Donald is a blow hard. I honestly don't see him being that much different than Hillary. Both are so full of shitt. Only thing that I have hope in is that Donald will place somewhat conservative or less liberal judges to the Supreme Court than will Hillary.


Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
Re: Debate tonight [Re: Recurve] #1857929
09/26/16 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: Recurve
Originally Posted By: thirtyotsix
Is that all you got. Typical. You democrats sure stick together.


Who is that directed at?

He replied to my comment. Apparently we are democrats since we have an opinion of the Donald the carnival barker that doesn't align with his point of view.


Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
Re: Debate tonight [Re: bobwallace] #1857932
09/26/16 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: bobwallace
Originally Posted By: thirtyotsix
Is that all you got. Typical. You democrats sure stick together.

So anyone that doesn't see things the way you do is a democrat? The irony of that line of thinking is that it's usually a left wing idiot that can stand for someone to have a different opinion than them. I won't apologize for my opinion. I've never said that I'm not going to vote for Trump. Hell I would vote for you if it meant keeping that sickly crazy ass woman out the WH. But the fact is, Donald is a blow hard. I honestly don't see him being that much different than Hillary. Both are so full of shitt. Only thing that I have hope in is that Donald will place somewhat conservative or less liberal judges to the Supreme Court than will Hillary.


I won't either. He was a terrible nominee and these people were told as much over and over and over again. I can't stand him but I'm voting for him simply because of the alternative. And if that doesn't work, people are forgetting that she doesn't appoint justices, she nominates. At least we can put up a fight on her nominations.


I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
Re: Debate tonight [Re: Recurve] #1857933
09/26/16 05:43 PM
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You if let Hillary win with your bias. You are either for him, or for a crook that wants to kill the way we all live because of your clouded butt hurt ideology. Again moronic.


With politics being a career, a swamp is the obvious consequence
Re: Debate tonight [Re: bobwallace] #1857934
09/26/16 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: bobwallace
Originally Posted By: Recurve
Originally Posted By: thirtyotsix
Is that all you got. Typical. You democrats sure stick together.


Who is that directed at?

He replied to my comment. Apparently we are democrats since we have an opinion of the Donald the carnival barker that doesn't align with his point of view.


That line of thinking from his ardent supporters is what concerns me...


I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
Re: Debate tonight [Re: thirtyotsix] #1857937
09/26/16 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: thirtyotsix
You if let Hillary win with your bias. You are either for him, or for a crook that wants to kill the way we all live because of your clouded butt hurt ideology. Again moronic.


How is it butt hurt? He was and is a terrible nominee and I for one am sick of the Republican Party nominated terrible candidates. I would think after 08 and 12, a true conservative such as yourself would feel the same way.


I hope we have once again reminded people that man is not free unless government is limited. There�s a clear cause and effect here that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts. � Ronald Reagan
Re: Debate tonight [Re: Big Al] #1857938
09/26/16 05:48 PM
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From Matt Walsh:

About tonight's horrific spectacle:

For the first 30 minutes, Trump was great. In fact I was legitimately impressed. He put Hillary on the defensive and she responded by cackling and stammering and flashing an evil grin like Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Hillary is absolutely awful when you take her off her script. She knows how to do what she practiced, but she doesn't know how to respond like a regular human person when she's backed into a corner.

Unfortunately, the debate was not 30 minutes. It was 90 minutes. And those last 60 were a disaster for Trump. Period. And if you want him to win, you need to criticize him now and stop pretending everything he touches is gold. Or he will lose. Badly. That's the situation. Time to deal with it.

Trump let Hillary get away with virtually every lie she told. She shrugged off her email scandal by calling it a mistake and Trump did not follow up. Later she spoke about the need for cyber security and Trump didn't even bother bringing up that Clinton kept an unsecure server in her freaking bathroom.

Trump was put on the defensive on a number of issues and he didn't handle the situation well. He rambled and babbled and allowed the discussion to stay on his own scandals and controversies rather than pivoting to Hillary.

Hillary blatantly called Trump a racist -- THREE TIMES -- and Trump had no retort, except to tell some strange story about how he hired some minorities once or something and it made him feel good. I don't know. I could follow.

The subject turned to policing and racial issues and Trump never brought up the fact that Hillary has pandered to the mob and endangered police lives. Hillary also put the mother of an attempted cop killer on stage at her convention, but of course Trump made no mention of that.

Trump basically allowed Hillary to get away with everything, and only tried to hold her feet to the fire at the end for producing "not nice" ads about him. That's what he got her on. Not Benghazi, not the emails, not speaking fees or anything else. Only that she was "not nice" in some ads.

He did briefly bring up the DNC's railroading of Bernie Sanders but then stepped on his own point by transitioning that into a conversation about how his son likes to play computer games.

I will give him credit for one good line. When Hillary attacked Trump for stiffing some contractors who worked on one of his hotels, Trump shot back: "Yeah well Ambassador Stevens was your employee and he's dead now."

Just kidding. Trump didn't say that. He just rambled for another 12 minutes while Hillary silently gave praise to Satan.

It was unbearable to witness, especially because I could see the glee seeping out of Clinton's face. She can't believe her luck. She's a corrupt, lying, half-humanoid crook with a lifetime of scandal to her name, and the Republican nominee had little interest in talking about any of that tonight. Instead he spent 60 minutes defending his casinos and explaining why he should be given credit for making Obama release his birth certificate.

Again: If you want Trump to win, you need to be honest about this. Because if he continues with this strategy -- if you can call it that -- he will be crushed in November.

As for me, I don't know if I can even watch the next debate. I can't physically stomach watching Hillary win. Nobody deserves to lose more than her. But not everyone gets what they deserve in life. And Hillary couldn't be happier about that.

Final debate grades:

Hillary: F

Trump: F

Primary voters: F

America: Doomed

My bourbon bottle: empty

Apocalypse: can't come soon enough


"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles"
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Re: Debate tonight [Re: Recurve] #1857941
09/26/16 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Recurve
Originally Posted By: thirtyotsix
You if let Hillary win with your bias. You are either for him, or for a crook that wants to kill the way we all live because of your clouded butt hurt ideology. Again moronic.


How is it butt hurt? He was and is a terrible nominee and I for one am sick of the Republican Party nominated terrible candidates. I would think after 08 and 12, a true conservative such as yourself would feel the same way.

If he was a true conservative, we wouldn't be having this argument.


Yeah, well, I always heard there were three kinds of suns in Kansas: sunshine, sunflowers, and sons-of-bitches.
Re: Debate tonight [Re: Big Al] #1857944
09/26/16 05:54 PM
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A truly unbiased moderator would have asked shrillary the hard questions as well. The liberal media stacks everything in the dems favor.

Re: Debate tonight [Re: Big Al] #1857964
09/26/16 06:38 PM
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I think he's letting the "on the fence" voters form their own opinions. By not hammering the front line questions, he is inadvertently making folks talk about HRC issues. He definitely came off as soft to the die hard Trump supporters, but his self-restraint may help him. I just hope his comments about tax sheltering don't come back to haunt him. It's the middle class that pays when you try to tax the 1%. Small business owners don't have the luxury of lobbyists and top tier tax accountants. He would be a fool not to hide realized income thus, getting hammered by taxes. I have no idea about politics and I may be flat wrong, but that's how I see it from my personal small business experience.

Re: Debate tonight [Re: Big Al] #1857969
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I have looked at many debate polls and all I have checked has Trump winning. Trump showed restraint. A lot of people wanted him to go for the juglar, but he didn't. He amde his points that have gotten him this far and even leading in the election electoral college.

Re: Debate tonight [Re: BC_Reb] #1857970
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Originally Posted By: BC_Reb
I think he's letting the "on the fence" voters form their own opinions. By not hammering the front line questions, he is inadvertently making folks talk about HRC issues. He definitely came off as soft to the die hard Trump supporters, but his self-restraint may help him. I just hope his comments about tax sheltering don't come back to haunt him. It's the middle class that pays when you try to tax the 1%. Small business owners don't have the luxury of lobbyists and top tier tax accountants. He would be a fool not to hide realized income thus, getting hammered by taxes. I have no idea about politics and I may be flat wrong, but that's how I see it from my personal small business experience.
. When a person gets audited every year for the last ten years as Trump has, CPA s will tell you he is taking abnormal deductions and investment schemes that the IRS is challenging...

Re: Debate tonight [Re: Big Al] #1857972
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If that's the case, he seems to be 10-0?

Last edited by BC_Reb; 09/26/16 07:35 PM.
Re: Debate tonight [Re: JDAIII] #1857975
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Originally Posted By: JDAIII

Originally Posted By: BC_Reb
I think he's letting the "on the fence" voters form their own opinions. By not hammering the front line questions, he is inadvertently making folks talk about HRC issues. He definitely came off as soft to the die hard Trump supporters, but his self-restraint may help him. I just hope his comments about tax sheltering don't come back to haunt him. It's the middle class that pays when you try to tax the 1%. Small business owners don't have the luxury of lobbyists and top tier tax accountants. He would be a fool not to hide realized income thus, getting hammered by taxes. I have no idea about politics and I may be flat wrong, but that's how I see it from my personal small business experience.
. When a person gets audited every year for the last ten years as Trump has, CPA s will tell you he is taking abnormal deductions and investment schemes that the IRS is challenging...


It's not abnormal. That's how the rich get rich and stay rich. Creative book keeping let's you invest another 20%+ each year that average joe isn't smart enough to. 20-30% yearly is huge over a period of time now reasonable investments with compounding. But, I'm more of the opinion that he doesn't want people to know his financial status.

Re: Debate tonight [Re: Big Al] #1857976
09/26/16 08:20 PM
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I had to decompress for a while after that...I knew it was going to be bad, but I never expected it to be that horrendous. I've never been that embarrassed over a nominee who represents those of us who are politically conservative.

Trump got trumped. He is responsible now for electing HRC if he doesn't find a way to win the next two debates.


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Re: Debate tonight [Re: Big Al] #1857985
09/27/16 12:22 AM
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For those of ya'll that think Trump "lost" the debate. He actually won the majority of online polls, especially online polls on some very liberal lefty websites. The daily mail put a bunch of them together. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3809204/Most-snap-polls-Trump-winning-debate-landslide.html


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Re: Debate tonight [Re: extreme heights hunter] #1857992
09/27/16 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: extreme heights hunter
Originally Posted By: Narrow Gap
Lester Holt hosting the Debate had a whole lot to do with how the debate went. Never mentioned the Clinton foundation.


At least half the questions were slanted against trump


I woke up this morning and thought the same thing.


It be's that way sometimes.

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