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Question for military/guard/law enforcement? #1856788
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Not trying to be inflammatory but what will you do when your superior officer orders you to uphold sharia law or any law that violates the Constitution?

Are you currently or have you previously upheld any order from a superior officer which violates the constitution of The United States of America, i.e. gun confiscation in New Orleans following hurricane Katrina?

Obviously there is no requirement for any of you to answer but I would really appreciate your reassurance that you would defy those unlawful orders should they come, ... and they will.

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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856791
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Follow up question, and please believe me, even though I know it probably will, it is not my desire to stir anything up but how many of you actually know what the Constitution says? I would hope that all of you do but understand if maybe some brushing up might be in order. I know I could use a brush up and I think I will do just that over the next week or so.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856878
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That would be an unlawful order in the Military and soldiers are sworn to protect the Constitution.You can not be ordered to follow an unlawful order.That is in UCMJ, universal code of military justice.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

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If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856883
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^^^ This


my 2nd amendment guarantees your 1st amendment!


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856884
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I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856885
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When the time comes, most soldiers will probably follow orders, no matter what the order is. We've seen that time and time again throughout history.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: AU7MM08] #1856887
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Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


You live in a cocoon if you think it couldn't happen here. Every single empire falls. Every. single. one.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856891
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What perch said. Also, If I where given an unconstitutional order by a superior I would then treat that as a threat. The oath say's against all enemies foreign and domestic.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: leroycnbucks] #1856900
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Originally Posted By: leroycnbucks
What perch said. Also, If I where given an unconstitutional order by a superior I would then treat that as a threat. The oath say's against all enemies foreign and domestic.


Kinda like how all the politicians take an oath to uphold the constitution but then passed the Patriot act, in direct opposition to the 4th amendment? There aren't many folks that will stand up to authority, plain and simple.

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Remington270] #1856938
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


You live in a cocoon if you think it couldn't happen here. Every single empire falls. Every. single. one.


^^^This


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Abram] #1856947
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Originally Posted By: Abram
Originally Posted By: Remington270
Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


You live in a cocoon if you think it couldn't happen here. Every single empire falls. Every. single. one.


^^^This
Yup. Half the the folks in my brother n laws unit are liberal loving phuggs


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Everyone. All of them...

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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856963
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james they are dumbasses, liberals never give Military a raise. Republicans do.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: perchjerker] #1856970
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Originally Posted By: perchjerker
james they are dumbasses, liberals never give Military a raise. Republicans do.
True. But they have been purging the military of good ole boys for sometime now, they want Young bucks that can be brainwashed. Man I could tell ya some stories but it would take to long to type lol..


How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom?
Everyone. All of them...

Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: James] #1856987
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Originally Posted By: James
Originally Posted By: perchjerker
james they are dumbasses, liberals never give Military a raise. Republicans do.
True. But they have been purging the military of good ole boys for sometime now, they want Young bucks that can be brainwashed. Man I could tell ya some stories but it would take to long to type lol..


They've definitely been structuring the military much differently than in the past. Gays, women in direct combat and special forces.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1856993
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In my day no soldier would have accepted a fag in his foxhole or
showers.


Thomas Jefferson. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Life is too short to only hunt and fish on weekends!

If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Remington270] #1856996
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Originally Posted By: Remington270
When the time comes, most soldiers will probably follow orders, no matter what the order is. We've seen that time and time again throughout history.


Sad but true.

One day the U.S. military will be under the control
of AntiChrist along with all the other militaries of the world.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: AU7MM08] #1857567
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Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


I don't really care for Alex Jones but it is a historical fact that law enforcement confiscated firearms from law abiding citizens of this country following hurricane Katrina. I wish I knew how to get the video on here. I've seen video of on scene interviews with guardsmen telling how uncomfortable they were doing what they were doing, and yet, ... they were doing it. I don't know his name and am not sure of his position but I think it was the police chief for New Orleans standing at a podium at a press conference confirming that no one would be allowed to be armed.

No conspiracy thinking here just a clear view of history.

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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1857702
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Originally Posted By: Smells
Originally Posted By: AU7MM08
I think OP has his tinfoil fedora too tight & has been chugging the Alex Jones koolaid.


I don't really care for Alex Jones but it is a historical fact that law enforcement confiscated firearms from law abiding citizens of this country following hurricane Katrina. I wish I knew how to get the video on here. I've seen video of on scene interviews with guardsmen telling how uncomfortable they were doing what they were doing, and yet, ... they were doing it. I don't know his name and am not sure of his position but I think it was the police chief for New Orleans standing at a podium at a press conference confirming that no one would be allowed to be armed.

No conspiracy thinking here just a clear view of history.

Spot on.


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Re: Question for military/guard/law enforcement? [Re: Smells] #1857744
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Anyone who thinks police and military will not take up guns if ask or told to do so, are naive.

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