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Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: Deadwood] #1843129
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I've often wondered what our economy would look like if not for that entire element; crime and incarceration, drugs, loss insurance, jobs that exist to service all of that, taxes, medical costs and jobs, the list goes on.

Can we ever return to an ethical existence?

I doubt it, but a two parent household as the norm would be a great start.

When I'm speaking to others in normal conversation, I never put qualifiers on a subject, such as "that black guy" or "that white gal". It sometimes causes confusion, especially if I'm talking about someone with colored skin, no matter which community I'm in.

It sure would be nice to be able to hit the reset button and everybody just be neighbors. That's naive thinking on my part, though.

But the question remains, what are the contributing factors in our differences?



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I've made this statement before. It's not a blanket statement because there are exceptions to every rule. The majority of it can be boiled down to socio-economic status. Where is the most crime? It's in the hood. Lower income whites are also jailed at a higher rate than middle class and wealthy. It has to do with resources and the scarcity of them. Why are 3rd world countries so corrupt? Scarcity of resources. Wealthy people have no reason to commit crime. Poor people do.

You can blame it on race all you want, but I assure you if the roles were reversed and more whites lived in poverty, you would see incarceration rates reversed.


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Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: Deadwood] #1843131
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Well, it truly is a spiritual issue. We have to start this discussion from the foundation-- EVERYTHING is a spiritual matter (For our battle is not with flesh and bone....)

Now, this ties in to the common sentiment above regarding single parent households, but goes deeper actually. For reasons that I can't explain practically or historically, the black culture exalts the maternal head, they are a "matriarchal" culture. Consider their strong affinity to "mom" in sports shout-outs, the proliferation of black women pastors, and various other examples of female exaltation in the black culture. This is antithetical to God's declaration of order, thus one could conclude the trainwreck that is "black lives" stems from the disorder of God's blueprint.

Depending on the site used for data, anywhere from 70% to 77% of black children are raised in MOTHER-only households. (In converse, about 70% of whites are in two-parent homes) When you remove the father from the culture, you get disfunction. Everything else is a symptom of this problem, not the problem itself. And here's an important tie-in about how this affects the black political paradigm (anti-colonialism)....

A man's sense of worth, pride, dignity, are instilled by the lessons and love of the father (this is intended as a reflection of the "Father's" love). When those attributes are amiss, you become a victim. Work ethic is a matter of self-worth, it requires pride. Without the father, it's less likely any of these attributes are developed. Stay with me here, but when you don't see yourself in high esteem, you also don't believe nor expect that others do either. Everyone is racist, against you, life isn't fair, it's not your fault. Most liberal ideology is based on this premise, which explaines the affinity for Democrat politics. This lack of self worth is evidenced in so many things that black culture exalts: The excessive black on black murder rate, overall violence, glorification of debauchery and violence in black music, and so forth.

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Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: Yelp softly] #1843133
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Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
I've made this statement before. It's not a blanket statement because there are exceptions to every rule. The majority of it can be boiled down to socio-economic status. Where is the most crime? It's in the hood. Lower income whites are also jailed at a higher rate than middle class and wealthy. It has to do with resources and the scarcity of them. Why are 3rd world countries so corrupt? Scarcity of resources. Wealthy people have no reason to commit crime. Poor people do.

You can blame it on race all you want, but I assure you if the roles were reversed and more whites lived in poverty, you would see incarceration rates reversed.


I say that poverty is a result of the fatherless culture.


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Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: Deadwood] #1843135
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I agree, Ikillbux



Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: bill] #1843136
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Originally Posted By: bill
So they are an inferior breed? God didn't create them in his image?

The numbers and statistics before LBJ paint a different picture.


Inferior breed? No. Different skill set? Yes. I imagine most Africans can out run and out jump me but that doesn't mean I am an inferior breed.

Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: Narrow Gap] #1843163
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Originally Posted By: Narrow Gap
Look Up crime in South Africa and it will shed some light on this issue and You will figure out Who and what is the problem with their kind no matter where they are in this World.


Someone is informed.


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Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: Deadwood] #1843215
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When I was younger, I remember my dad coming home wore slap out from putting in a damn hard days of work. He was proud of that work, too. Same with my dad and His dad. Same with my grandpa and great grandpa. We were taught how to earn an honest dollar and to be proud of it, whether we knew it or not.

We've got generations of uneducated, ungodly, entitled & lazy people raising kids right now. Take a guess at what kind of people the kids turn into and how they raise their kids. We've got generations of people that have never honestly seen a father figure or any figure, for that matter, put in a hard day of work. They've seen that they "should" get everything they "need or want" just by simply getting it. They have no pride or desire to honestly better themselves and they have plenty of free time. With free time comes Idle Hands, especially when you never had an actual "raising".


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Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: Deadwood] #1843227
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As some have mentioned, it goes much farther than this country.

Blacks are from Africa and for the most part they are raised without a father figure there. They had it made here but their culture came with them and it didn't take long for that culture to shine through.

Do some research on Africa and you will see how it is over there.


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Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: MarksOutdoors] #1843228
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All I know is I have asked many times "Can you name me any black majority country in the world that is not a cesspool." And I have yet to get an answer. It ain't just whitey keeping them down. Reference South Africa. As a whole they just can't seem to evolve past the tribal mentality. And here in the US they have no desire to get out of the entitlement mentality and won't ever until it is forced on them. Which means my children's children will still be paying their living expenses.

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2 things.

The Robin Hood mentality adopted by our government, has quietly killed the masses, and it starts at the bottom.

Second. I've seen studies done on different races. Black people have "fast twitch" muscles which make them better overall at sports, for example. I truly believe that different races have inherent physical and mental attributes to cope with where they originate. Not to say all whites are smarter or all blacks are faster, but that trends seem to lend different races to be better at some specializations as a whole.

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I mean, if we're gonna teach evolution in school, why don't we talk about the differences in people?

Ill use duck hunting as an example. You aren't gonna kill a fist full of wood ducks over some goose decoys. Am I right?

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http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/03/the_decline_of_the_africanamerican_family.html

Read it and then tell me when the decline of the black family started in this country. There is a direct correlation and the numbers are in this article.


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Originally Posted By: bill
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/03/the_decline_of_the_africanamerican_family.html

Read it and then tell me when the decline of the black family started in this country. There is a direct correlation and the numbers are in this article.


Good article, Bill.

That puts a very sharp point on the timeline and contributing factors.

Drs Sowell and Williams are both very informed, succinct, and put forth simple, self evident arguments that anyone can understand and simply can't be disputed.



Re: Serious Question About Crime, Ethics, And Culture... [Re: Big Game Hunter] #1843498
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Originally Posted By: Big Game Hunter
As some have mentioned, it goes much farther than this country.

Blacks are from Africa and for the most part they are raised without a father figure there. They had it made here but their culture came with them and it didn't take long for that culture to shine through.

Do some research on Africa and you will see how it is over there.


And to expound on this, I keep saying "In America, we don't have a race war, we have a culture war."


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Originally Posted By: whack-n-stack
I mean, if we're gonna teach evolution in school, why don't we talk about the differences in people?

Ill use duck hunting as an example. You aren't gonna kill a fist full of wood ducks over some goose decoys. Am I right?


Less than 2% total genetic difference between all people groups on the planet. Nobody evolved.


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Originally Posted By: Yelp softly
I've made this statement before. It's not a blanket statement because there are exceptions to every rule. The majority of it can be boiled down to socio-economic status. Where is the most crime? It's in the hood. Lower income whites are also jailed at a higher rate than middle class and wealthy. It has to do with resources and the scarcity of them. Why are 3rd world countries so corrupt? Scarcity of resources. Wealthy people have no reason to commit crime. Poor people do.

You can blame it on race all you want, but I assure you if the roles were reversed and more whites lived in poverty, you would see incarceration rates reversed.


Very well put.


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It's all about the family unit. Which interestingly changed around the time when houses stopped being built with front porches. This all really started right after WWII and LBJ continued it. Millions of moms went to work outside the home for the first time...progressive schools became substitute moms... we've never recovered.


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lack of God,lack of family, lack of morals. This ruins people from any race and creates a lack of respect for themselves,others or any laws.


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Originally Posted By: paulfish4570
several good posts in this thread. couple of lost cause crap posts, too ...


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