Well if you don't like it, leave.

Just for the record, officially, our bosses have never once relied, encouraged, or suggested we post a single thing on here that had any relevance to agency business or public information. It's all voluntary because we care that people get information. No hard feelings. Things are what they are but if anyone wants to know anything else they can call an office (implying official in the word itself), or attend a public meeting, visit our web site etc.

just as i expected..

And there we have it, good resources lost.

Thanks Matt for your insight and contributions, they were greatly appreciated

were being the keyword. i really hate to see these guys go. but thats what happens

If I felt like some of you guys I wouldn't hang around. I would make a strong statement by closing my account for good.

In his previous post Skinny has already stated that the agency likes to dictate" inform" things, won't pay him, ask the guys to leave the site so he can complain about their lousy job. Why would they pay to get on a site that the owner of the site doesn't like them? Makes perfect sense to me. Then even if the did they get blasted about the job they are doing.
I appreciate the questions that they have answered, and the tidbits of info( id#).

That official or unofficial....

Once again PCP hits a home run!

If someone came on here from DCNR and answered questions in an official capacity , the Wizard of OZ might be exposed. Might have to explain the back room deals, broken promises to get game check. Like having to cut a deal for season extension with the high fence owners . How many of their own biologist spoke out against it , but were told to basically sit down and shut up, this is what it takes to get game check, game check is good. How a CAB member who's family owns a high fence operation made the motion to extend the season statewide. But that's not a conflict of interest ......in Alabama.

Then only to tell us that there's a couple of areas that have the rut right around February first North of Birmingham is the reason. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining and lie about it!

Like PCP I'm taking aim at those at the top , not the fellows out in the field that post on here.

Well damn.

I’ve always been amazed that someone from the DCNR hasn’t already told Matt and Jeremy to quit posting on here or at least strongly encouraged it. Regardless of how we want to see this situation……their presence on here and the info they put out, like in this thread….takes on an “official” tone. Most of these threads also turn into dumpster fires with multiple “official” posts being made rebutting folks’ statements with another explanation and another explanation that goes….“No, what I’m trying to say is……..dadada.” By the time most of these dumpster fires burn themselves out….then we’ve often gotten into a dozen different scenarios ranging from legitimate to absurd and the end result is usually just muddier waters than we had to begin with. I’ve always pictured Chuck Sykes reading these conversations in the background and just hitting that head slapping emoji over and over and over.

I don’t think any of this is personal against the guys posting here. They might as well be Joe Biologist as far as that is concerned. I can see where there’s hard feelings since these guys who are posting are good folks. I agree though that it would be a much better idea if the DCNR would take someone with really good public relations skills and put them on here in an official capacity to answer questions rather than what we have going on now. I think a lot of the reason it doesn’t happen though has to do with what 2Dogs is referencing. If they open themselves up to the public like that then they’ll be bombarded with all kinds of questions that they will constantly be putting out “official” answers to…..which they probably don’t want. It’s just a chitty situation that’s not gonna have a happy ending. The forum will go on.....

Sunshine is a wonderful thing.

Hell Matt Brock was wrong as crap about what's considered legal and baiting for doves in another thread so I don't know if he's wrong or right in this one. Don't really care. I haven't opened this thread til just now and man there's gotten to be a bunch of Whiny azz gotta be FL/GA line fans commenting about this. SMDH.

Well, if you're hunting or fishing in an area where, let's say, Yotetrapper, Matt, or Nighthunter are assigned, their understanding and interpretation of the laws will make the difference in you getting a citation or not when you meet them. They are going to enforce based on their understanding at the time.

They are human beings just like everybody else here. They ain't likely gonna bust you open if you're trying to be honest.

I'll take the word of an informed friend like them in the field.

If I fuckup, I'll pay the fine.

Thanks guys, from a Florida hunter that tries to play by the rules.

And Skinny, I do see your point on the "official" goobers wanting to hide from daylight and hard questions. The rulebook pamphlet and the actual codified laws are in conflict sometimes, as 49er used to point out. Add the Federal laws to the mix for Migratory birds, and it gets confusing.

DeadWood,,, see right there is part of the problem , why is a law written to where each GW has to interpretate it .


interpretation ,,,, making law , where the difference . GW job is to enforce law not make it up as he goes along.

Oh, yeah, Frankie. I dang sure see your point, but that's the way it is presently.

"When in Rome"..........

As a side note, have a look at Florida fishing regs if you want to be confused. They can change weekly, and certainly will as you progress through different areas.

That said, Alabama laws and regs are tame compared to that shibbitz.

I said what I thought was legal and also stated I'd let Jon respond before taking what I said as right. I've never worked a day of dove enforcement in my life. Jon came on and made it right. Don't worry. It won't happen any more.

So nobody can give out information/instructions on a subject that they happen to work in. So no gunsmiths talking gun repair, nobody that works on bows giving out info on bows, mechanics, A/C repairmen, lawyers, etc etc unless they pay to do so. A bunch of y'all gonna have to be careful.